Best QB of All Time...???
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Oh good gravy? Aaron Rodgers the best QB of all time???? All time??? Seriously all time? WOW...
I like Rodgers but is he even the best Packers QB of ALL TIME? Yet
Is Drew Brees seriously on this list. Good goobily woo...
Jeez...Starr, Bradshaw, Fouts, Unitas, Aikman, Staubach
Off the list....Brady and Montana
I like Rodgers but is he even the best Packers QB of ALL TIME? Yet
Is Drew Brees seriously on this list. Good goobily woo...
Jeez...Starr, Bradshaw, Fouts, Unitas, Aikman, Staubach
Off the list....Brady and Montana
Brees:
Yards - 4th
TD's - 5th
Completion % - 1st
Pass Rating - 7th
Yards Per Game - 2nd
Passes Completed Per Game - 1st
Yards - 4th
TD's - 5th
Completion % - 1st
Pass Rating - 7th
Yards Per Game - 2nd
Passes Completed Per Game - 1st
Brees has great stats and I think he is a great QB and he should be a part of the discussion. But I'm not sure I would put him ahead of anyone on your list. Nor would I put him ahead of anyone of the guys I listed. Bradshaw has 4 rings for goodness sakes (and I hate Bradshaw). Am I crazy?
Montana, No question. 4-0 in the bowl. 3 MVPs. Rice won the other and who threw him the ball? Montana. Won blowouts and close games, as well. Finished games with Tds and not Fgs. I hated the 9ers and him but he is the greatest. Brady, Giants beat him twice, makes him #2 for me. Elway is #3. Took inferior teams to the Bowl. When he finally had a team around him. He got it done, even as an old man.
Can't believe people are even mentioning Bradshaw...
Career 51% completion rate
212 career tds to 210 ints
Playoffs
57% completion rate
30 tds to 26 ints
He had 2 Hall of Fame WR's, a Hall of Fame RB, and arguably the best defense of all-time. No free agency. Sorry not buying Bradshaw even being close to this list...
Career 51% completion rate
212 career tds to 210 ints
Playoffs
57% completion rate
30 tds to 26 ints
He had 2 Hall of Fame WR's, a Hall of Fame RB, and arguably the best defense of all-time. No free agency. Sorry not buying Bradshaw even being close to this list...
"Best of all time" debates are fun, but they are tough because of the different eras involved. Today's game is completely different game than in the 1960's. They are also tough because you can look at stats, or championships, or MVP's, leadership?, comebacks? and you have to consider the team they were on. So to rate QB's is practically impossible and depends on what you personally value more from your QB.
Look at a guy like Aikman who is a HOF QB, with 3 superbowl rings and an MVP but played on a great team, with a HOF RB, HOF WR, behind one of the best lines in history and had some very good defenses to help him out as well. Aikman has great accomplishments, but not great stats. Was Aikman great or was Aikman good but on great teams. On the flip side you look at a guy like Marino who didn't win anything but played on some not so great teams with no RB's and still performed. Marino is definetely in the discussion when talking about all time greats and so is Aikman. Same for a guy like Bradshaw that didn't have good stats at all. He was the leader of the team that won 4 superbowls in six years. He has to be in the discussion. (personally i didn't like Bradshaw, but he would be in the discussion).
Its interesting to see different opinions and especially younger folks that maybe never saw some of the older "greats". I also wonder how an Aaron Rodgers would do passing against the doomsday defense or the steel curtain that would wreck your receivers coming across the middle and there wasn't really a "roughing" the passer penatly . Especially when his skill guys from the 70's would be slower.
Look at a guy like Aikman who is a HOF QB, with 3 superbowl rings and an MVP but played on a great team, with a HOF RB, HOF WR, behind one of the best lines in history and had some very good defenses to help him out as well. Aikman has great accomplishments, but not great stats. Was Aikman great or was Aikman good but on great teams. On the flip side you look at a guy like Marino who didn't win anything but played on some not so great teams with no RB's and still performed. Marino is definetely in the discussion when talking about all time greats and so is Aikman. Same for a guy like Bradshaw that didn't have good stats at all. He was the leader of the team that won 4 superbowls in six years. He has to be in the discussion. (personally i didn't like Bradshaw, but he would be in the discussion).
Its interesting to see different opinions and especially younger folks that maybe never saw some of the older "greats". I also wonder how an Aaron Rodgers would do passing against the doomsday defense or the steel curtain that would wreck your receivers coming across the middle and there wasn't really a "roughing" the passer penatly . Especially when his skill guys from the 70's would be slower.
To me, Super Bowls are won by teams. Using the argument of Super Bowls would mean that Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Drew Brees and Peyton Manning are equals. Plus that would mean Marino wouldn't even be in the discussion. I believe that Super Bowls should be a part of the discussion, but when you look at the teams that Bradshaw and I'll include Aikman too because I agree with oldschool42, that they were really good players surrounded by a great team. If you put Bradshaw or Aikman on the Pats teams that Brady has won with, I doubt they win any Super Bowls... and I am not a Brady fan. In fact can't stand him, but to watch his accuracy is unbelievable and he's done it with a lot of just ordinary receivers. Just my 2 cents