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CURRENT NCC 7V7 STANDINGS 7/24

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SALLIES 8-0
MTOWN 8-0
CARAVEL 6-2
SMYRNA 6-2
AI 6-2
APPO 5-3
DOVER 5-3
ST MARKS 5-3
ELKTON 4-4
MCKEAN 4-4
DMA 3-5
ST E'S 3-5
HOWARD 2-6
BWINE 1-7
DELCASTLE 1-7
GLASGOW 1-7
NORTH EAST 0-8
 
Anyone heading up to A.i. Tonight for the Sallies/Smyrna match up? I'll still be at Middletown but any updates would be great?

That seems to be the only headline matchup remaining being the last week and all.
 
Wow, never saw Sallies as a passing team... looks like things have changed on broom st. I guess that cocky Smyrna DB corps got bad last night.
 
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Who is the QB for Sals ? Whats his story? Do the Sals plan on throwing more this year? Whats the story morning glory?

Zach Qwynn. He was the sophomore that came in for Cannon when he broke his ankle 2 years ago. He's looked great in 7v7 and has definitely matured. With Patrick gone there's no real big Backs so you would think BDN would get it in the air but who knows.
 
Zach Qwynn. He was the sophomore that came in for Cannon when he broke his ankle 2 years ago. He's looked great in 7v7 and has definitely matured. With Patrick gone there's no real big Backs so you would think BDN would get it in the air but who knows.

Any chance of an air attack coming from 18th and Broom is a mirage.
 
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Zach Qwynn. He was the sophomore that came in for Cannon when he broke his ankle 2 years ago. He's looked great in 7v7 and has definitely matured. With Patrick gone there's no real big Backs so you would think BDN would get it in the air but who knows.

Oh yeah I remember him he looked promising when he came in for Cannon. I thought BDN should have let him throw it more in the championship game vs Smyrna.. JMHO
 
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Sallies will be passing more specifically in those 4 games they might lose as they fight for there playoffs lives but miss the playoffs for the first time in 10 years
 
other than Smyrna and Middletown, what are the other two games sallies might lose?

I would like to see sallies throw more, like you said, they are gonna have to throw against Middletown and Smyrna or they will be blowouts. Then again, I'm not too sure on this new Smyrna QB. He's gonna struggle against good defenses.

Judy recruited the wrong guy I think. Should have tried to lure that Dover QB. Watching him last night he's gonna be something special to watch, i feel bad for him, the talent around him is gonna be his downfall. Receivers couldn't catch. Give him some more talented receivers, a decent running game, Dover is gonna push Smyrna for that Henlopen crown.
 
They could lose to any of the out of state schools on their schedule.. "could" depending on what those squads have this year but those schools definitely have the ability to field a very good team.. I would say Westminster at their place is a loss.. Westminster runs basically same O as Smyrna and better. They always have a good QB
 
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other than Smyrna and Middletown, what are the other two games sallies might lose?

I would like to see sallies throw more, like you said, they are gonna have to throw against Middletown and Smyrna or they will be blowouts. Then again, I'm not too sure on this new Smyrna QB. He's gonna struggle against good defenses.

Judy recruited the wrong guy I think. Should have tried to lure that Dover QB. Watching him last night he's gonna be something special to watch, i feel bad for him, the talent around him is gonna be his downfall. Receivers couldn't catch. Give him some more talented receivers, a decent running game, Dover is gonna push Smyrna for that Henlopen crown.


Not sure Judy recruited him, I think he just wanted to come to smyrna. But I agree, Dover kid looks good. Hopefully smyrna kid gets better and has more success in the regular season with the threat of the run being there. Right now it's a lot of staring in one direction and then closing his eyes and chucking the ball long when the ref hits the 3 second mark. Might work though once the pads come on and defenses have to play the run. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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Ps I'm very worried about smyrna this year. I can't imagine them being as good as the last two years with Nolan gone and there's only so much Knight can do. Plus Middletowns passing attack will be badass and Smyrna's corners couldn't cover Caravel kids.
 
Kid is going to have to do something.. Teams are going to load up on Knight.. we will know soon enough kid gets thrust into bright lights right out of the gate..
 
believe or not I haven't been to game there yet.. one of the very few venues in DE I haven't seen a game at.. just haven't been willing to put up with the cowbells, traffic and parking lol
 
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Wow, never saw Sallies as a passing team... looks like things have changed on broom st. I guess that cocky Smyrna DB corps got bad last night.
Well, I'm out of town but let me add a few things to the discussion. Smyrna had a few of their main defensive guys out and some offensive guys even had to play some D. But even more important than that, the Smyrna coaches don't take these off season games and early scrimmages nearly as seriously as some other teams and coaches do. No one in the Smyrna camp will be alarmed and think that teams will pass all over them. The defensive back field has been a challenge for Smyrna for many years in the past. They have gotten better lately. Nothing about a 7v7 game in July will raise any red flags for those familiar with the team. Smyrna plays freshman, inexperienced guys, and works on things during these opportunities. Like last year's MT scrimmage where they did experimental things looking down the road for development and not so concerned about a scrimmage. It's good for discussion but I don't put much stock in off season pundit analysis. Looking at these 7v7 games, I don't think they are an accurate indicator of much. It's hard to three peat but it's easy to work on improving the program. I think Smyrna has its priorities in order. Btw, one or two overzealous and vocal dbs doesn't a cocky defensive back field make. Every dB gets burnt and lets it go on next play. It's part of the job description. They also talk $@#& to get in receivers head when possible. And visa versa. No big deal.
 
Not sure Judy recruited him, I think he just wanted to come to smyrna. But I agree, Dover kid looks good. Hopefully smyrna kid gets better and has more success in the regular season with the threat of the run being there. Right now it's a lot of staring in one direction and then closing his eyes and chucking the ball long when the ref hits the 3 second mark. Might work though once the pads come on and defenses have to play the run. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I wasn't insinuating he was recruited sorry about that, it was just me saying the wrong QB transferred in. At least in my opinion. Lol
 
"the Smyrna coaches don't take these off season games and early scrimmages nearly as seriously as some other teams and coaches do."

As well as many posters on this board
 
other than Smyrna and Middletown, what are the other two games sallies might lose?

I would like to see sallies throw more, like you said, they are gonna have to throw against Middletown and Smyrna or they will be blowouts. Then again, I'm not too sure on this new Smyrna QB. He's gonna struggle against good defenses.

Judy recruited the wrong guy I think. Should have tried to lure that Dover QB. Watching him last night he's gonna be something special to watch, i feel bad for him, the talent around him is gonna be his downfall. Receivers couldn't catch. Give him some more talented receivers, a decent running game, Dover is gonna push Smyrna for that Henlopen crown.

HS Sallies has to watch out for Smyrna, Middletown, Penn, Westminster, Father Judge and maybe Episcopal.

This is a smaller Sallies team than in years pass. Some new faces are going to have to step up. People look over the fact that if they don't hold on to that 3 point win against Father Judge last season they would have missed the playoffs and I don't believe this team is as good as last seasons.
 
HS Sallies has to watch out for Smyrna, Middletown, Penn, Westminster, Father Judge and maybe Episcopal.

This is a smaller Sallies team than in years pass. Some new faces are going to have to step up. People look over the fact that if they don't hold on to that 3 point win against Father Judge last season they would have missed the playoffs and I don't believe this team is as good as last seasons.

Well shit. They spanked on smyrna
 
Well shit. They spanked on smyrna

Pickle that's 7v7. AI is above 500 and McKean has been floating around 500 every year in 7v7. When was the last time that was reflected with pads. Smyrna was 6-4 last yr in 7v7 we know how they finished. Put the pads on and Smyrna's D is based upon pressure not coverage. So question will be can Sallies run or pass effectively against that pressure.

When you lose Sinnott, Wright, Keating, Williams on the OL that's tough and you lose Vanneman, Stradley, Andreoli, Mullin on from a defense that got torched by Smyrna and lose Patrick and Drake who did a whole lot on both sides of the ball and special teams. That's 4 starting lineman, your top rb and wr, 3 of your 4 LBs and half your secondary That's a lot of talent and experience lost in key positions on a team that was struggled against the better teams last year. I gave you have their schedule and 3 or 4 loses can leave you out the playoffs.
 
Question.....looking at the schedules and talent returning, is Sallies the only team from last years D1 playoffs teams that has a greater chance of missing the playoffs this season?

Division 1 - Smyrna, Middletown, Sallies, William Penn, Concord, and Sussex Central.

Division 2 - Woodbridge, Howard, Caravel, Friends, Glasgow, St. Georges, DMA, and Milford.

Who has the best chance of missing this years post season?

Who are likely newcomers?
 
Pickle that's 7v7. AI is above 500 and McKean has been floating around 500 every year in 7v7. When was the last time that was reflected with pads. Smyrna was 6-4 last yr in 7v7 we know how they finished. Put the pads on and Smyrna's D is based upon pressure not coverage. So question will be can Sallies run or pass effectively against that pressure.

When you lose Sinnott, Wright, Keating, Williams on the OL that's tough and you lose Vanneman, Stradley, Andreoli, Mullin on from a defense that got torched by Smyrna and lose Patrick and Drake who did a whole lot on both sides of the ball and special teams. That's 4 starting lineman, your top rb and wr, 3 of your 4 LBs and half your secondary That's a lot of talent and experience lost in key positions on a team that was struggled against the better teams last year. I gave you have their schedule and 3 or 4 loses can leave you out the playoffs.

Nice Piece of Analysis. I really liked Patrick. I can't believe he wasn't their feature back from the get go. Yes, I thought that the Sals O line was solid. Having said that there is no way that the left side of the line should have been first team all state. The Slowsky running game was shut down by good teams.

With all of those seniors gone I think that the Slowskys will be 5-5 at best. I think a HN team will take their place.

Sorry, Sals fans. Get ready to take a step back.
 
Sallies is one program in the state I don't look too hard into what they lost from the previous year. They typically start allot of SR's so they lose allot of starters every year but when you have 220-250 kids in the program next man up is usually just as good or maybe better. There are many times where Sals will start a upperclassman over a underclassman even if the underclassman may be a better player.. Sals traditionally rewards the Sr's in the program if the talent level is close..I mean they do call them clones for a reason JMHO
 
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Sallies is one program in the state I don't look too hard into what they lost from the previous year. They typically start allot of SR's so they lose allot of starters every year but when you have 220-250 kids in the program next man up is usually just as good or maybe better. There are many times where Sals will start a upperclassman over a underclassman even if the underclassman may be a better player.. Sals traditionally rewards the Sr's in the program if the talent level is close..I mean they do call them clones for a reason JMHO


RR...lol It may look like 220-250 but cut that number down some and there comes a point where your best core group leaves and the following group goes through growing pains. I believe that time is now for them. 2 years ago it was a big line and Reeder and a solid defense who carried the team. Reeder left but the line stayed you saw the result beat down by Mtown and Smryna and a lost to a young Penn team who should be better this year. Now those left overs from Reeder days are gone and its a big chunk. I think they have some time but if they don't go at least 3-1 in the first 4 with the 1 lost being a close one to Father Judge they can hang it up.

IMO this will be a team a step below that 7-3 from 2014 and lost to Sussex Tech first rd of playoffs.
 
Question.....looking at the schedules and talent returning, is Sallies the only team from last years D1 playoffs teams that has a greater chance of missing the playoffs this season?

Division 1 - Smyrna, Middletown, Sallies, William Penn, Concord, and Sussex Central.

Division 2 - Woodbridge, Howard, Caravel, Friends, Glasgow, St. Georges, DMA, and Milford.

Who has the best chance of missing this years post season?

Who are likely newcomers?

Out in D1: Concord & Sussex Central are out. Sallies are on the cusip. They can't lose twice to out of state schools because they probably are going to lose 2/3 or 3/3 to Smyrna, Mtown, Penn

New in D1: Cape, St. George's, Dover (If Magee plays like a man amongst boys)

Out in D2: Glasgow, Milford & obviously St. Georges

New in D1: Delmar, A.I., Archmere
 
LOL I may have over estimated a bit..counted them up

V- 60
JV- 40
FR- 70
TOT-170

I realize many of them will never see the field at the Varsity level but dang any coach would love to have those numbers..I believe the 70 Freshman number is partly a result of St Marks not being a D1 player any more.. anyone remember a couple years ago when a Sals parent was on here popping off about the Freshman team going undefeated? haha well they should
 
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Question.....looking at the schedules and talent returning, is Sallies the only team from last years D1 playoffs teams that has a greater chance of missing the playoffs this season?

Division 1 - Smyrna, Middletown, Sallies, William Penn, Concord, and Sussex Central.

Division 2 - Woodbridge, Howard, Caravel, Friends, Glasgow, St. Georges, DMA, and Milford.

Who has the best chance of missing this years post season?

Who are likely newcomers?

Concord and Central are out, St. Georges and Dover are in for D1
For D2, St. Georges is out by virtue of moving up and I don't know if Milford has the same firepower returning, same for DMA, so I'll call them out for now. In are Delmar, Laurel and Archmere.
 
Just to understand a bit more, how come you guys think concord is out?

They normally field a big and bruising line. Bam is back, not sure if their QB is, but I don't think they've done worse than 7-3 since they've been brought up to D1. Actually one of the few that's been able to stay consistent since being bumped up.
 
Just to understand a bit more, how come you guys think concord is out?

They normally field a big and bruising line. Bam is back, not sure if their QB is, but I don't think they've done worse than 7-3 since they've been brought up to D1. Actually one of the few that's been able to stay consistent since being bumped up.


HS.. That big and bruising line is gone that don't have success throwing graduated somewhere around 15-20 of their starters. The dominated with their Defense (i.e. Caravel was playing with them until D broke QBs leg) and at least 8 (5 of there 7 LB/DBs) of those starters were seniors. Bam can't do everything on both sides of the ball you saw what happened to Patrick last season at Sallies and I believe he was and is in better shape than Bam with more support.

It was not difficult for them to be 7-3 in recent years because they would beat up on Charter, Delcastle, Mount, AI, Appo and a dying Newark and Glasgow before that is six wins per year. Now they have to face Hodgson and a physical St. George's returns most of their team that lost 24-27 to (8-2) Penn and an improved Appo team.

Loses to Sallies, Mtown, St. Georges, Penn puts them at minimum 6-4. With suspected battles with Hodgson, Dover, Appo. 4-6 or 5-5 is not unreasonable.
 
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Had a conversation about this with a friend and alum from their starters and key subs they return Wright (C), Lennox (RB/DB), Dennis (RB/DB injured last season), Brown and Mack (DL), and Roberts.
 
In Division 1 Concord is out and St Georges is in while in Division 2 St Georges and DMA is out and I think St Mark's and Delmar gets in
 
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