DE Preps Composite Top 10

[JeffMullen]

Division I

1st place votes Consensus Total

9 1 Smyrna 99
2 Middletown 87
3 Salesianum 78
1 4 Concord 69
5 William Penn 54
6 Appo 34
7 Sussex Tech 32
8 Sussex Central 27
9 Cape Henlopen 23
10 AI DuPont 14

Caesar Rodney 13
Newark 11
Mt. Pleasant 7
Dover 2

Division II

1st place votes Consensus Total

3 1 Woodbridge 89
3 2 Caravel 80
3 St. George's 71
3 4 Howard 61
5 DMA 52
1 6 Friends 40
7 Hodgson 37
8 Glasgow 35
9 St. Elizabeth's 25
10 Lake Forest 15

Tatnall 13
Archmere 11
Delmar 8
St. Mark's 5
Tower Hill 4
Milford 4

 

[eagle control]

Division I

1st place votes Consensus Total

9 1 Smyrna 99
2 Middletown 87
3 Salesianum 78
1 4 Concord 69
5 William Penn 54
6 Appo 34
7 Sussex Tech 32
8 Sussex Central 27
9 Cape Henlopen 23
10 AI DuPont 14

Caesar Rodney 13
Newark 11
Mt. Pleasant 7
Dover 2

Division II

1st place votes Consensus Total

3 1 Woodbridge 89
3 2 Caravel 80
3 St. George's 71
3 4 Howard 61
5 DMA 52
1 6 Friends 40
7 Hodgson 37
8 Glasgow 35
9 St. Elizabeth's 25
10 Lake Forest 15

Tatnall 13
Archmere 11
Delmar 8
St. Mark's 5
Tower Hill 4
Milford 4

Middletown 1 all by themselves and will go undefeated. Whitehead will be POY.
2. Symrna, sallies, concord and penn in no order

 

[Jawnsky]

Middletown 1 all by themselves and will go undefeated. Whitehead will be POY.
2. Symrna, sallies, concord and penn in no order

Are you saying the Cavs are #1 ?
I am not necc in disagreement but that win came against a CR program that has really fallen on hard times.

 

[eagle control]

Are you saying the Cavs are #1 ?
I am not necc in disagreement but that win came against a CR program that has really fallen on hard times.

Agreed CR not the best barometer just my feeling they have a QB this year and whitehead might be most over looked player ever.

 

[JeffMullen]

Middletown 1 all by themselves and will go undefeated. Whitehead will be POY.
2. Symrna, sallies, concord and penn in no order

All by themselves huh ... Well I guess Smyrna and Sallies should just forfeit the rest of their games then...

Smyrna will go at least 9-1

Middletown will go at least 9-1

Sallies will go at least 8-2

 

[eagle control]

All by themselves huh ... Well I guess Smyrna and Sallies should just forfeit the rest of their games then...

Smyrna will go at least 9-1

Middletown will go at least 9-1

Sallies will go at least 8-2

Took it the wrong way. Certainly games should be played and they are not the only two but they are two good ones. Symrna will have more than 1 loss btw

 

[CowTownBrownTown]

Agreed CR not the best barometer just my feeling they have a QB this year and whitehead might be most over looked player ever.

Are you saying they didn't have a QB last year?

 

[CowTownBrownTown]

Took it the wrong way. Certainly games should be played and they are not the only two but they are two good ones. Symrna will have more than 1 loss btw

Who does Smyrna lose to? Looked at their schedule and the only close close game I see is Sallies University/High school for old young men. Sussex maybe?

 

[DoverSenator]

I don't see Smyrna losing to any teams downstate. Sallies will be a good game can't predict anything there. But I don't see Smyrna losing downstate at all so at most I agree maybe one loss but that's why they play the games right.

 

[JeffMullen]

2 week 2 Top 10's turned in so far...

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[ravensrooster2]

you will get mine tomorrow,,,

 

[delawarenole]

Are you saying they didn't have a QB last year?

Pretty much. Mtown could have competed for state if CDP hadn't thrown the ball so much with a below average QB. Wonder why he did that?

 

[delawarenole]

I am with Eagle Mtown clear #1

 

[youjustme]

I have no problem with MT being ranked #1 (although I don't agree). I'm just curious why the terms "clear" and "all by themselves" are being used. Is it really that obvious or does it just sound better to include those words. We are just talking opinions, right? It's not based on objective evidence, is it? I don't see anything clear about either Smyrna or MT being #1. There was a time when the defending state champs got the respectful nod the next year until someone knocked them off or they were so decimated by graduation that they could no longer compete. Although Smyrna lost over half of their starters, I don't see nothing to reduce them to #2 when looking at it objectively. It's hard for a team to repeat and I for one will not judge the success of this year's team on whether they repeat or not. It's a process, a culture that develops in a program that is important. Compared to where Smyrna has been, the coaches are well on their way to establishing a strong program. Last year's championship was an unexpected icing on the cake IMO. Outstanding senior classes come and go and last year was an outstanding senior class at Smyrna that when combined with the coaching brought a championship home. The true measure of a program is the ability to be competitive year in and year out because of the system you have established and the inspiration you have fostered among the players and community. I don't think Smyrna or Middletown are CLEAR number ones. I'd like to hear any sensible rationale otherwise.

 

[oldskool42]

I'm not sure how anyone could say there is a clear #1. If Smyrna and Mtown played right now i think it would be an amazing game and cant see how it would be more than a pickem game. Maybe homefield would be the factor.

As far as rankings. Everyone has their opinion. Some people would say last years Champ is still #1 until knocked off, at least for PreSeason. Others would say its all gut feeling and roster potential. Now that we have one week under our belts we can possibly use week 1 performance to adjust our preseason rankings but some teams weren't tested and others were. Smyrna and Mtown weren't tested in week 1. Sallies was tested by a good team and got the win. Tech destroyed a preseason ranked A.I. team. Concord and Penn both beat good D2 teams. So clearly someone could argue that Sallies had the most impressive win. Personally i think Smyrna and Mtown are interchangeable at this point at #1 but i think Sallies is a close 3. i had Smyrna, Mtown, Sallies for preseason and Tech as my top 4 and i still do with Concord right there as well.

 

[Wolverine52]

Yep
Top 4 IMO is a pick'em
Concord
Mtown
Smy
Sals

In no order. Honestly who cares at this point- playoff points+wins/Losses is all that matter in the end anyway...although it does give us something to talk about.

 

[SingleWingNut]

Still to early for a D2 rankings or is it still too wide open to make a top 10

 

[SingleWingNut]

And do u think St Marks has a competitive team what i saw Friday night i think they could make a Playoff Push

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Youjustme....I like you're view point on the matter, couldn't have said it better. I have always ranked the defended champ 1 until someone beats them. I love that Smyrna is now competitive, and I hope that after knight and Henderson are long gone they stay competitive, it makes D1 more interesting then always being sallies and Middletown, but the true test of how good the Smyrna program is or could be is after those two graduate. Sallies and Middletown reload EVERY YEAR, always top 3, top 5 at worst, the question on Smyrna is are they now one of those teams who can do the same. It's no question they are probably one of the best teams in the state right now though.

 

[JeffMullen]

6 in for week 2 so far

 

[Jawnsky]

D1
Smyrna
MT
WP
Sals
Concord
Sx Tech

D2
St. E's
HVT
WB
CAR
St. G's
Arch
Glasgow
DMA

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

This week was tough.

Do you penalize William pen for barely beating st. Georges or do you move st. Georges up for almost beating William penn.

Caravel almost pulled the upset against a concord team who is suppose to finally be a title contender this year after always being "one year away" so do you drop concord or move up caravel? But caravels QB is now out for the season so if you don't penalize them for a tough loss, how good are they without Barkee? Top 3 still? Top 5?

Sussex tech has been a second tier team for years, their display against A.I. Said they are ready for a team like sallies and Smyrna. Or was A.i. Just that bad?

If it wasn't for all the D2 losses at the top of the rankings I probably wouldn't have moved Hodgson as far up as I did, seeing lake forest in a scrimmage, (albeit..a scrimmage though) they did not impress me and Hodgson should have won by more than a touchdown. Imo

 

[ravensrooster2]

The reports I got from folks at the Penn vs St G was the game was ugly.. tons of mistakes, flags etc.. It seemed close and exciting on twitter but folk there said it really wasn't a good or entertaining game.. for what its worth.. I binged them both a little

As for Caravel I binged them a few slots.. still plenty of talent on the field but with only a 140lb freshman qb to go to I am thinking its back to the drawing board for them on O to figure out how to get the ball in the hands of the talent.. Most likely we will see a much more scaled back O with maybe even some wildcat mixed in who knows

 

[WornDown]

I saw the WP - St G game and I can say it was sloppy beyond anything I've seen at this level. I'd like to see a penalty count. What's worse is that most of the penalties were pre-snap. Based on what I saw I wouldn't put either of these undisciplined teams anywhere near the top five. 12 men in the huddle no less than 10 times between the 2 teams. ?????

 

[life lessons]

Some people need not post smh. If St. Georges isn't top 10 after losing to the LARGEST School in the state then please stop all top 10 polls. Penn has arguably the best athlete in the state at QB and a host of talent. St. Georges had 5 (give or take a few) returning players and held their own. No brightwell, no Ortiz. Woodruff and Gilbert gone. QB? Gone. They werent supposed to be relevant yet here they are AGAIN.They will be ok. Maull has always had those boys rocking. D2 is a gauntlet tho. Some teams play absolutely NO ONE and will make playoffs smh. Caravel was my eary pick to play WB but I love ARCHMERE.

Penn is always top 5 and Dooley looks to keep that streak alive and well. Great program and they have tons to choose from.

Sussex Tech is hard to figure at the moment bc AI played like a low D2 school. Brown has plenty of speed and Tech has some serious weapons (he isn't the only threat). Size upfront and depth could prove to be a problem.

Central will be a tough out even for Smyrna. They are physical, they have DEPTH and the line play is SOLID. Play calling will be key bc it's only so many times you can run guard trap and waggle. Regardless they are my dark horse pick for D1.

MOT looks IMPRESSIVE. QB looks very good and tgey play a physical style. They also have whatvi consider to be a top 3 coach. Delpercio gets it done. However in order to be the man you have to beat the man and Smyrna is thee MAN (until they lose).

1. Smyrna
2. MOT
3. Concord
4. Sallies
5. Penn/Central

 

[life lessons]

D2
1. WB
2. Archmere
3. St. Georges
4. Glasgow
5. Friends/DMA

 

[WornDown]

First, I said top they're not Top 5, I didn't say top 10. If you saw the game, then you saw a mess. If you didn't see the game, you should probably reserve judgment. Neither team came ready to play, and if you ask Dooley, he will tell you the same thing. Yeah, Penn has one of the best athletes in the state at QB, but he's not a QB, he's a WR, so he's trying to learn a position on the fly. Both teams can be better than what I saw, but they will need to show it because they didn't show it Friday night. There had to be 30 penalties, and it wasn't because the refs were just tossing them. The refs were fine.

 

[SingleWingNut]

D2
1. WB
2. Archmere
3. St. Georges
4. Glasgow
5. Friends/DMA

Can you explain your reasonings why these teams are ranked 5 and why you like each team I'm surprised No st E's or Tatnall.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Not many people are sold on Tatnall just yet. Although, I'll be the first to say they are dangerous and talented. I said that month or two ago from 7on7. In a couple of weeks it will be more clear on how good they are.

As for st. Elizabeth's, I guess you can say same situation but with the ECA transfers and cropper, I don't see why anyone aren't sold yet.

 

[life lessons]

WB is loaded. They return many of the pieces that lead to a semifinal berth.

Archmere has arguably the BEST Coach in the state. He flat out gets it done.

St. Georges has a great staff and they are PHYSICAL!! Add that to the fact that Maull has found a QB and is not afraid to throw the roc. You can't put 9 in the box this year (My pick to play WB in the chip).

DMA is a stretch but they don't have a tough schedule so by November they will be in the hunt.

Glasgow has some transfers and they look good.

Friends return shipping a ton of players and most importantly that QB who runs that option load so well. Come November they will be in the hunt.

HSftballlaxfan called Tatnall from the beginning. I like his style! To me they are like DMA so I'm not buying. I gave DMA the nod bc they played a very physical tough game vs a tough WB team in playoffs last season.

Milford is hard to figure out but I like the you guys coach they have. If they can get some qb play they will be solid.