How many points will Smyrna score against Willaim Penn
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LOL at the clown that voted 15-28... Defeserest was that you?
No Rooster that wasnt me I voted 29-38 if you must know. Whats going to be funny Assclown is when Penn whips up on Smyrna and your choking on your words . You heard it here first Penn will stop Smyrna there wont be no 50+ points scored on them
As if it even matters to me who wins.. I have no skin in the game.. Ill be choking on nothing.. I will tell you this.. You have over rated WP and they will get 45 plus put on them,,They will lose as well..Thats just my opinion and thats all it is,, has zero to do with hate..WP is just not that good
Rooster YOU gotta be kidding me ? Penn won19 straight games from last year and have been tested time and time again . They lose to Sallies this year and now they are not that good really? Your a joke . Smyrna played nobody this year a losing Henlopen Conference they played Sallies and got spanked cmon now. To say Penn is not that good is just ridiculous. Penn is 28-5 in 3 years up to now but they ar no good . Your crazy cmon I think they have proved themselves you just dont want to give them credit but that's fine give credit to a team that hasnt played anyone with a winning record lol your funny
First of all no one said Penn wasn't good.. but only a fool would say they are as good as last year...You talk as if Penn is a perennial player.. they are not! They had two good years in the last decade and that was because of Reggie Carroll. News flash Carroll graduated.. and the fact is Penn is just ok... No they dont suck but they are not all that period...
Read what you wrote you said last sentence in previous posts Penn is.not that good to beat Smyrna . Its funny you.think smyrna is real good why is that? Why because they can run the score up on losing henlopen teams or teams with a losing record? As I said before they are going to play winning teams now in the playoffs and I wasnt impressed Friday night when they played Mount . Hell Mount put 32 points up on Smynra you dont think Penn will put up more than that? Especially if Smyrna spots them.the ball on the 50 each time
Smyrna is averaging 55 points per game this year, which is crazy, ill say 29-38 points and I have them in a upset. Smyrna Sals rematch from the shootout earlier in the year.
I really like you guy and love your passion for your team...unfortunately it will end in disappointment for you... Smyrna wins this.. sorry to say..
Its all good rooster we both differ in opinion and thats what is so great about living in the USA we all are entitled to opinions but as I said before Smynra's fairy tale season ends Saturday. Should be a good game either way .
DR...Smyrna put up 50+ on the best team in the state. Why do onside kicks and going for two pt conversions bother you so much? Every team has the option of scoring and playing however they want. That's like saying some basketball team wins only because they shoot too many three pointers. And hating them for doing so. I have sons on the squad and have been the most objective critic of Smyrna for real issues like penalties and miscues...not silly things like going for two. Maybe they understand that if you can get two TDs worth of points just from conversions, that can help win games. Just because it's not the traditional way doesn't mean you should criticize it. Besides upsetting you, whatever they are doing is working. They can't forfeit games because their opponents or conference is not as strong as they were in the past. There was a time they still would have lost to them. You can only play who is in front of you. I am proud of the Eagles. 10-2, 11-2, 12-1...who cares. This season is already a WIN. A championship will not define or make or break this season. Lighten up...it's just a game for teenagers. I am one of Marvin's biggest fans and could call him anytime. Rooting for Smy doesn't mean hating WP.
Smyrna has a suspect defense so why give a team a short field most of the time by using an onside kick? I know their thinking is to get the ball back and score but that's wishful thinking. And it's not a surprise on sides kick if everyone knows it's coming.
Assclown..........now we havin' fun LOL
I have not looked at all my research yet but WP ain't gonna whip Smyrna....Win...sure can!
But whip...NO! (if they do-I will ban Bummy for a year)
WP lost ....at home....and lost bad to Sals. They could only scrape up 13 pts. That's quite a few less than the Eagles put on the Sals. If Penn wins it will be in a close game. And that is a big if.
.....Hell, if Smyrna has an off day-they still might score 24-28!
fwiw- I am now leaning toward Smyrna based upon some limited info.....
WP Beat Mt. P by 18, Smyrna won by 24 (+6)
WP Beat Appo by 42, Smyrna won by 64 (+22)
WP beat Delcastle by 35, Smyrna won by 56 (+21)
WP lost to Sallies by 17, Smyrna lost by 20 (-3)
Smyrna with an 11.5 positive points per game on common opponents
WP Beat Appo by 42, Smyrna won by 64 (+22)
WP beat Delcastle by 35, Smyrna won by 56 (+21)
WP lost to Sallies by 17, Smyrna lost by 20 (-3)
Smyrna with an 11.5 positive points per game on common opponents
NH now has 3,420 yards (Passing, Rushing & Receiving) and 38 total TD's in 11 games
WN now has 1,987 yards (Rushing & Receiving) and 31 TD's in 11 games... And 47 2 pointers...
WN now has 1,987 yards (Rushing & Receiving) and 31 TD's in 11 games... And 47 2 pointers...
One thing is for certain......Friday at Baynard and Saturday at WP will be ticket money well spent!
If you love HS FB....its must see!
edited to say....except them damn bells!
If you love HS FB....its must see!
edited to say....except them damn bells!
fof123...I also don't like the onside kicks. But the coaches knows the team best. Maybe the defense, although suspect, is still better than the kickoff coverage squad. It's a gamble but it might be their best play. People should not chalk everything up to cockiness or ignorance. Same thing with extra point kicks.
Youjustme nobody is hating on Smyrna . I think they have a good squad and have lots of talent. But my point with the onsides kicks is it could be a long day for Smyrna if they give Penn a short field I beleive Penn will score every time if given a short field they are that good on offense.
Jeff I wouldnt compare any of those numbers you have for one they are misleading . In most of those games like Appo, Delcastle Penn's starters were out midway thru the third quarter if not at halftime and as I said before if they were left in Penn could have easily run up the score or shut out teams their JV was in by that time . So its not really accurate to use those numbers .
If WP controls the clock and keeps the Smyrna Offense off the field this could be a lower scoring game than most think. But I think Penn wins.
I think the Smyrna QB will see pressure like he has never seen yet?
Plus I think Smyrna will lose the coaching match up.
But it was been a decent run for Smyrna they should be proud. They didn't play many good teams, and lost to who most thought they would have lost to. But hopefully with the demographics and more people moving to the area all the time their future should be bright, and not just a "flash in the pan", like most people are saying.
Hopefully their pee wee & middle school leagues improve and some consistentency will follow at the HS level.
I think the Smyrna QB will see pressure like he has never seen yet?
Plus I think Smyrna will lose the coaching match up.
But it was been a decent run for Smyrna they should be proud. They didn't play many good teams, and lost to who most thought they would have lost to. But hopefully with the demographics and more people moving to the area all the time their future should be bright, and not just a "flash in the pan", like most people are saying.
Hopefully their pee wee & middle school leagues improve and some consistentency will follow at the HS level.
Smyrna's starters were out after halftime or early in the 3rd quarter vs Appo and Delcastle as well, with running clock. I watched the games in person and multiple times on Hudl. I don't know why you think that Smyrna leaves starters in too long. I have a photo of Knight with his pads literally off his body during the third quarter. Those two games are fair comparisons and can be used for such...whatever that means. Common opponents often don't mean much but I just think that you have convinced yourself of something that simply is not true about "running up scores". I posed a questions to you before...If they are up by 30+ points by half time, why do you blame leaving kids in too long as the reason for the lopsided scores and being somehow "unPennlike".
i think its pretty much common place and a un written rule to pull starters when the running clock is achieved. The issue may be Smyrna runs a offense that when the back ups are in can be perceived as trying to run it up. In reality the back ups are just running their O. I wouldn't expect Smyrna to line up in the I and run up the middle. It wouldnt be fair the back ups trying to learn their system. .
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RR2 - You are correct in regards to common opponents and not running up scores. It s just Smyrna's style of play will produce more points even with backups in. Even if they put the Freshman players in, they would run the same offense and probably be successful against Delcastle. No offense to Delcastle, but they had no clue how to defend that offense. Wm Penn once up with a running clock would just naturally hand off...run up the middle...and dial down the offense easily.
So in the same breath, i would say that comparing the results of common opponents in this case doesn't say much other than the end results were very similar. Smyrna isn't better because they scored more against Delcastle. Good information from Jeff though as usual. All three common opponent wins were pretty much the same result, lopsided wins. The common loss was a 2 score PLUS loss to the best team in the state.
My biggest takeaway is from the Sallies matchups. Smyrna pretty much went toe to toe with Sallies after coming from behind. Smyrna eventually made too many mistakes to keep up the toe to toe battle. (i chalk that up to inexperience). Wm Penn pretty much laid an egg against Sallies on its home turf in the biggest game of the year (to that point). Penn had a bad game, they are certainly entitled that after a long winning streak. Just not sure how much of it was a bad day and how much was how good Sallies might be (possibly a little of both). I'm a Penn fan, so not hating on Penn. But their common opponents won't be there on Saturday. Its how well each team will perform that day. I hope the weather is good and everyone stays healthy. I want a good game and no excuses at the end. May the best team win....
So in the same breath, i would say that comparing the results of common opponents in this case doesn't say much other than the end results were very similar. Smyrna isn't better because they scored more against Delcastle. Good information from Jeff though as usual. All three common opponent wins were pretty much the same result, lopsided wins. The common loss was a 2 score PLUS loss to the best team in the state.
My biggest takeaway is from the Sallies matchups. Smyrna pretty much went toe to toe with Sallies after coming from behind. Smyrna eventually made too many mistakes to keep up the toe to toe battle. (i chalk that up to inexperience). Wm Penn pretty much laid an egg against Sallies on its home turf in the biggest game of the year (to that point). Penn had a bad game, they are certainly entitled that after a long winning streak. Just not sure how much of it was a bad day and how much was how good Sallies might be (possibly a little of both). I'm a Penn fan, so not hating on Penn. But their common opponents won't be there on Saturday. Its how well each team will perform that day. I hope the weather is good and everyone stays healthy. I want a good game and no excuses at the end. May the best team win....
RR, 2012 MT did ! Once up which was all season ran the ball, not one pass with running clock. I thought it was unfair myself for the skill player back ups to come in and have run one dimensional O handing to RB every down. Good point!!
I will agree with RR penn is over rated. Sals showed if ya take out the play maker than who knows what will happen. Good luck to penn and the Dooleys!
Jawnsky......I know everyone doesn't like the bells, and I apologize for that, so I'll make sure I'll substitute the bells this week for the air horns and amplified mega phone like in years past. Can't speak for the rest of the Middletown faithful though
The more noise the better . I've never liked the quiet atmosphere at Baynard. Even when packed something seems off.
Fof123....that's at least one thing we can agree on. I can't stand when I go to a game, Middletown (unlikely) or someone else and the fans just sit on the bleachers chit chatting. The players want everyone up on their feet cheering and screaming and being rowdy, like a college SEC football game. That's the one thing you can get when you visit or play a Middletown team. I've heard stories about how Delmars fans are and how similar but I have never ventured down to witness it.....no offense to division 2, but it's too far of a drive for a D2 game in my opinion.
I hope this Friday brings a great game, no matter the outcome. I just pray the blow outs are over for at least another year.
I hope this Friday brings a great game, no matter the outcome. I just pray the blow outs are over for at least another year.
I have a different take: How many points will William Penn give up against Smyrna? That casts an entirely different light on the subject.
