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HS D1 RANKINGS
1. Middletown (5-0)
2. Smyrna (3-2)
3. Salesianum (4-1)
4. Sussex Central (5-0)
5. Hodgson (4-1)
6. William Penn (3-2)
7. Polytech (4-1)
8. Sussex Tech (2-3)
9. Caesar Rodney (2-3)
10. St. George's (2-3)

My biggest takeaways after this weekend

Everyone is chasing Middletown.
Sallies is a severe threat to anyone wishing to claim a championship.
Smyrna seems to be getting back on track, but is letting inferior teams hang with them until they (Smyrna) pulls away late.
Hodgson seems to be a key sleeper in Division 1, but still has a tough road ahead with William Penn and Middletown still looming.
Sussex Central is the only threat to Smyrna when it comes to the Henlopen Crown.

Now to the points....keep in mind, all OOS enrollment numbers are based off of the USA TODAY site and are not official.

6 points for a D1 win/4 points for a D2 win
1 point for a D1 loss/0 points for a D2 loss

Middletown - 30
Sussex Central - 26
Salesianum - 25
Hodgson - 21
Smyrna - 20
William Penn - 20
Polytech - 20
Caesar Rodney - 15
St. George's - 14
Cape Henlopen - 13
Sussex Tech - 12
Concord - 10
Appo - 10
Dover - 8
Newark - 8
Delcastle - 7
Charter - 4

IF PLAYOFFS STARTED TODAY
1. Middletown (Bye Week)
2. Sussex Central (Bye Week)

3. Salesianum vs 6. William Penn
4. Hodgson vs. 5. Smyrna

Due to tiebreakers, Smyrna gets over William Penn and Polytech.

Due to tiebreakers, William Penn gets over Polytech.

Come back tonight to check out the D2 playoff points after the Archmere-Caravel game
 
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HSftballlaxFan said:
My biggest takeaways after this weekend

Everyone is chasing Middletown.
Sallies is a severe threat to anyone wishing to claim a championship.
Smyrna seems to be getting back on track, but is letting inferior teams hang with them until they (Smyrna) pulls away late.
Hodgson seems to be a key sleeper in Division 1, but still has a tough road ahead with William Penn and Middletown still looming.
Sussex Central is the only threat to Smyrna when it comes to the Henlopen Crown.

Now to the points....keep in mind, all OOS enrollment numbers are based off of the USA TODAY site and are not official.

6 points for a D1 win/4 points for a D2 win
1 point for a D1 loss/0 points for a D2 loss

Middletown - 30
Sussex Central - 26
Salesianum - 25
Hodgson - 21
Smyrna - 20
William Penn - 20
Polytech - 20
Caesar Rodney - 15
St. George's - 14
Cape Henlopen - 13
Sussex Tech - 12
Concord - 10
Appo - 10
Dover - 8
Newark - 8
Delcastle - 7
Charter - 4

IF PLAYOFFS STARTED TODAY
1. Middletown (Bye Week)
2. Sussex Central (Bye Week)

3. Salesianum vs 6. William Penn
4. Hodgson vs. 5. Smyrna

Due to tiebreakers, Smyrna gets over William Penn and Polytech.

Due to tiebreakers, William Penn gets over Polytech.

We are entering Week 6 of the season, so after Week 7, Bonus Points will come into play and will likely schuffle this up.

Come back tonight to check out the D2 playoff points after the Archmere-Caravel game
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Nobody can accuse you of a pointless post.
 
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Lurking with a rather manageable 2nd half schedule is St. Georges. Newark isn't Newark anymore, Delcastle's horrible, Concord is a waste of talent, so their toughest games would be Hodgson and Penn who they can beat.

Going to be an interesting 5 weeks. Great post as always, HS.
 
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HS, of course, I was being silly.
Nice piece of analysis.
I expect that Middleton and Smyrna will be 1 and 2.
You would think that SC and the Slowskys would be the main contenders for 3 and 4 but the Slowskys will probably go 2-3 in their final 5 games dropping them down to 5 or 6 or even out. That Judge loss really hurt them.
 
All in good fun Bummy.

Personally, with Middletown, Westminster, and Smyrna still looming for the sals, I think they can go 2-1 out of those. They will pull the upset over one of two between Mtown and Smyrna.

I don't think Hodgson will lose again until their final game against Middletown.

Penn will lose to Sals

Polytech a great start will start to diminish within these next few weeks.

I would think Central can pull the upset over Smyrna, but to refrain from being too bold, Smyrna won't lose again unless its to the Sals.

So my prediction for the playoffs

1. Middletown
2. Salesianum
3. Smyrna vs. 6. William Penn
4. Hodgson vs. 5. Sussex Central

IF St. George's can turn it around, with their manageable schedule, they could grab the 6th seed, but I'll give it to Penn for now. Is Smyrna can pull it off against Sallies, just flip the two.
 
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Sallies will finish 7-3 or 8-2.

They get their shot at Middletown this week so we shall see what they’ve got . Middletown is the team to beat but sometimes the best team doesn’t always win.

Smyrna is still a major player in DI. Knight is that good and their coaching is second to none. Stop comparing them to the previous 2 teams that they’ve had. Those teams are gone. Henderson was awesome. You don’t replace players like him.

Everyone else is playing for 4th place.
 
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HSftballlaxFan said:
HS D1 RANKINGS
1. Middletown (5-0)
2. Smyrna (3-2)
3. Salesianum (4-1)
4. Sussex Central (5-0)
5. Hodgson (4-1)
6. William Penn (3-2)
7. Polytech (4-1)
8. Sussex Tech (2-3)
9. Caesar Rodney (2-3)
10. St. George's (2-3)

My biggest takeaways after this weekend

Everyone is chasing Middletown.
Sallies is a severe threat to anyone wishing to claim a championship.
Smyrna seems to be getting back on track, but is letting inferior teams hang with them until they (Smyrna) pulls away late.
Hodgson seems to be a key sleeper in Division 1, but still has a tough road ahead with William Penn and Middletown still looming.
Sussex Central is the only threat to Smyrna when it comes to the Henlopen Crown.

Now to the points....keep in mind, all OOS enrollment numbers are based off of the USA TODAY site and are not official.

6 points for a D1 win/4 points for a D2 win
1 point for a D1 loss/0 points for a D2 loss

Middletown - 30
Sussex Central - 26
Salesianum - 25
Hodgson - 21
Smyrna - 20
William Penn - 20
Polytech - 20
Caesar Rodney - 15
St. George's - 14
Cape Henlopen - 13
Sussex Tech - 12
Concord - 10
Appo - 10
Dover - 8
Newark - 8
Delcastle - 7
Charter - 4

IF PLAYOFFS STARTED TODAY
1. Middletown (Bye Week)
2. Sussex Central (Bye Week)

3. Salesianum vs 6. William Penn
4. Hodgson vs. 5. Smyrna

Due to tiebreakers, Smyrna gets over William Penn and Polytech.

Due to tiebreakers, William Penn gets over Polytech.

Come back tonight to check out the D2 playoff points after the Archmere-Caravel game
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HS what are the tiebreakers was looking for them before but couldn't find
 
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1st tiebreaker - head to head
2nd - Opponents Wins
3rd - Opponents Losses
4th - Whoever is Ranked higher/coin toss(?)

I believe those are them, but I could be mistaken. I believe the last one is ranking but I remember reading a coin toss if it ever came to it
 
1. Head to Head Competition
2. The team whose opponents have the most victories in regular season play will qualify for the playoffs.
3. The team whose opponents have the fewest defeats in regular season play will qualify for the playoffs.
4. If a tie still exists, the committee will choose the at-large team(s) by vote.
 
So I see not much has changed. Bummy still doesn’t know a football from a fuzz ball, if you’re south of Dover 5-0 means zilch, and some how the same names are atop the rankings regardless of records.

Did you guys miss me?
 
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DSC - Central is 5-0 and you may be right, if it wasn't because of the names of the teams in front of them, Central could be a number one ranked team. (I'm assuming, this is the team you're referring too?)

Despite their flawless record, there is still some doubt in many minds, but they have a HUGE and capable chance to erase any doubt in anyone's head when they face Smyrna this weekend. If they can pull it out, depending on the outcome of the Middletown-Sallies game, Central could jump from 5 to 2 easily.

I will certainly be keeping a keen eye on this game from up at Baynard, hoping it's going to be streamed.
 
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DSC - Central is 5-0 and you may be right, if it wasn't because of the names of the teams in front of them, Central could be a number one ranked team. (I'm assuming, this is the team you're referring too?)

Despite their flawless record, there is still some doubt in many minds, but they have a HUGE and capable chance to erase any doubt in anyone's head when they face Smyrna this weekend. If they can pull it out, depending on the outcome of the Middletown-Sallies game, Central could jump from 5 to 2 easily.

I will certainly be keeping a keen eye on this game from up at Baynard, hoping it's going to be streamed.
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I feel pretty good about Smyrna's chances. If the Smyrna coaches can manage both the WILDCAT and the WILDCARD, it really shouldn't be much of a game. If play calling revolves around personnel, and not the other way around, I can't see SC stopping Smyrna nor can I see them scoring that much against them. To be clear, I think that SC has a capable team but just not in the same conversation with the "other" three. However, football is a funny game with tipped balls here, a fumble there, etc, but I think that Smyrna is the only team that should beat Smyrna in this upcoming game. But, that's why they play the game. If SC wins, it won't be of Buster Douglas proportions, but Smyrna will have to stub their toes, crap the bed, and drop the soap to come up short, IMO. Respectfully submitted. :)
 
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Downstatecredit said:
So I see not much has changed. Bummy still doesn’t know a football from a fuzz ball, if you’re south of Dover 5-0 means zilch, and some how the same names are atop the rankings regardless of records.

Did you guys miss me?
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Central at 5-0! Even if the SALS knock off Middletown, and SC wins....
 
I’ve been removed from high school football for a few years now enough to where I’m definitely not an expert any more (not that I ever was) but it’s tough to be anybody other than Smyrna or Middletown below the canal. Smyrna will be a tough match next week but if you have someone currently as #2 in points and #5 in the standings...something isn’t right. Fortunately points is all that matters and 6 big ones are on the line next week.
 
Downstatecredit said:
I’ve been removed from high school football for a few years now enough to where I’m definitely not an expert any more (not that I ever was) but it’s tough to be anybody other than Smyrna or Middletown below the canal. Smyrna will be a tough match next week but if you have someone currently as #2 in points and #5 in the standings...something isn’t right. Fortunately points is all that matters and 6 big ones are on the line next week.
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I think that the points are an objective indicator as the season goes on, but the rankings (not really standings) are an indicator of perceived strength by the person doing the ranking. It's easily to look at win-loses, opponents, injuries, etc, and have a 'feeling' about teams that are not aligned with points. The point system can never be held too high halfway through the season. There are far too many variables that may level out by the end of the season.
 
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I think that the points are an objective indicator as the season goes on, but the rankings (not really standings) are an indicator of perceived strength by the person doing the ranking. It's easily to look at win-loses, opponents, injuries, etc, and have a 'feeling' about teams that are not aligned with points. The point system can never be held too high halfway through the season. There are far too many variables that may level out by the end of the season.
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I think it’s obvious what they are. The objectivity behind the two are not the debatable issue here.
 
Both of you make great points.

Central is a great team, and I'm happy for Coach Wells and his players for being 5-0. I remember it was just last year posters were calling for Wells head.

If we look at the teams on the top four team schedules

1. Middletown - Beat Smyrna, William Penn, Delcastle, St. George's, and Appo.

3 Top Ten teams and other than Smyrna has been blowouts.

2. Smyrna - Beat Irvington NJ, Cape Henlopen and Casaer Rodney. Lost to Middletown and Franklin MD.

A one score game against the #1 team, A close game to an out of state team that would beat any team in Delaware by more, and has beaten The other 3 pretty handily,
Regardless of how.

3. Sallies - Beat Sussex Tech, Episcopal, Urbana, and Concord. Lost to Father Judge.

One Slip up against a team they probably should have beaten, blown out Concord, a terrible Urbana team, and pulled out a win against an Episcopal team that could hang with any team In Delaware.

4. Sussex Central - Beat Hodgson, Queen Anne's, Dover, Sussex Tech, and Caravel.

A good win against Hodgson and other than the Dover blowout, has only won by no more than 14 points or less in all these games. Granted, the Tech game is a Rivalry game and is usually close regardless of their records every year.

The teams ahead of Central(which is all opinion and hypothetical) would and should win all those games by a lot more than 14 points. I.e Sallies win over Sussex Tech.

If Central pulls out a win, all this goes out the window and Central becomes a serious threat to claim a championship. If not, they turn out to be a good team that is just one or two good players short of the competition which is nothing to be ashamed of. Graduating 23 seniors, this was supposed to be a rebuilding year.
 
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I think it’s obvious what they are. The objectivity behind the two are not the debatable issue here.
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Is there a debatable issue here? You said that something is not right if the #2 in points is #5 in standings. I don't see that here, but I do see a team #5 in points and #2 in above standings. Until a DE team beats Smyrna, I wouldn't put them ahead of Smyrna either. That's the non-objective evaluation I was referring to.
 
Downstatecredit said:
So I see not much has changed. Bummy still doesn’t know a football from a fuzz ball, if you’re south of Dover 5-0 means zilch, and some how the same names are atop the rankings regardless of records.

Did you guys miss me?
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Yes. Did you emerge because SC is undefeated? I wonder if they will beat the Slowkys if they meet them in the playoffs. Welcome back, Kotter..

....and the Slowkys regular season performance can only be judged (pun intended) by their next 5 games...
 
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What is the OOS enrollment threshold for this year?

I think SC has 2 more points (28 total) - but I am assuming you are judging QA as a D2 opponent - but I think they meet the standard for D1 with their enrollment of between 1150-1200 (depending on your source).
 
I did some research on the DE Department of Education websites and found the official DE enrollments for 2016-2017 (which will govern the 2017 and 2018 FB seasons). It appears that Hodgson VoTech is the smallest D1 school in DE at 1,119 students.
 
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I am counting Central as a D2 school. The numbers I used were off of USA TODAY which said their enrollment was 1102 and I believe the cut off is 1112. That's only a difference of 10 kids, so I'm sure the enrollment numbers are not official. If it's more I will gladly change the total.
 
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Uncle Bumfuzzled said:
Yes. Did you emerge because SC is undefeated? I wonder if they will beat the Slowkys if they meet them in the playoffs. Welcome back, Kotter..

....and the Slowkys regular season performance can only be judged (pun intended) by their next 5 games...
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Nothing to do with central’s record. As I said I’m unaffiliated. I hope the slowskys get to meet up so we can meet up.
 
Downstatecredit said:
So I see not much has changed. Bummy still doesn’t know a football from a fuzz ball, if you’re south of Dover 5-0 means zilch, and some how the same names are atop the rankings regardless of records.

Did you guys miss me?
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Yo, credit. My tan is fading.
 
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HSftballlaxFan said:
I am counting Central as a D2 school. The numbers I used were off of USA TODAY which said their enrollment was 1102 and I believe the cut off is 1112. That's only a difference of 10 kids, so I'm sure the enrollment numbers are not official. If it's more I will gladly change the total.
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HS are you counting Sussex Central as D2???
 
Any out-of-state opponent whose building houses grades 9-12 (boys and girls) and whose enrollment on September 30, 2016 is equal to or exceeds the 1119 enrollment number (boys and girls in grades 9-12) will be classified as Division I.

A single gender, out-of-state opponent will be classified by doubling their enrollment as of September 30, 2016. If the figure when doubled is equal to or greater than 1119 that school is classified as Division I.

Regardless of when a contract is/was signed the September 30, 2016 enrollment count will be used to determine classification for all schools, in state or out of state
 
Queene Annes is D1. Official MPSSAA count is 907 but that doesn't include 12th graders. So they will easily be over 1119 including the Sr's
 
Maryland Reportcard has Queen Anne's 9-12 grade enrollment for 2016 @ 1084. So unless this is wrong Queen Anne is D2
 
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