Jeff Mullen Week 5 Rankings

[JeffMullen]

Division I

1 Middletown 4-0
2 Smyrna 2-2
3 Sussex Central 4-0
4 Salesianum 3-1
5 Hodgson 3-1
6 William Penn 2-2
7 PolyTech 3-1
8 Cape Henlopen 2-2
9 Sussex Tech 2-2
10 Caesar Rodney 2-2

Division II

1 Woodbridge 4-0
2 Friends 2-1
3 DMA 4-0
4 A.I. DuPont 4-0
5 Caravel 2-2
6 Delmar 3-1
7 St. Mark's 3-1
8 Milford 2-2
9 Howard 3-1
10 Archmere 3-1

 

[PickleEveryEndNow]

How would Woodbridge be ranked in D1? Curious if they’d be top 5

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

I think Woodbridge would just make it at 5! I haven't seen enough from Hodgson to say Woodbridge would lose to them. But Middletown, Smyrna, and Sallies would have no problem. Sussex a Central would have a tough time but I'll give them the edge for now.

 

[JeffMullen]

4

 

[SwagDog]

Division 2 is just that. I doubt WB would make it in the top 8 let alone the top 5. Just curious HSftballlaxFan, if u realized that DMA hasn't played a team with a +.500 record to warrant they've shown enough?

 

[baseballer46]

4? No way...

 

[bbmvp]

I think a lot of D1 folks look down at D2, but if I recall, D2 beat D1 in more games week 1 this year. In saying that I am not sure how good this years WB team is yet, but their is not a doubt in my mind, last years WB team would be in the top 5 easily.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Swag, what are you asking me? IF I think DMA is a playoff/title
Contender?

Of course! They can only play who's on their schedule and year in and year out they have shown consistency. Would DMA crack the TOP 10 in Division 1, probably not. But we'll find out this weekend if they can after they meet Hodgson.

 

[DREAMScoutingNetwork]

Division I

1 Middletown 4-0
2 Smyrna 2-2
3 Sussex Central 4-0
4 Salesianum 3-1
5 Hodgson 3-1
6 William Penn 2-2
7 PolyTech 3-1
8 Cape Henlopen 2-2
9 Sussex Tech 2-2
10 Caesar Rodney 2-2

Division II

1 Woodbridge 4-0
2 Friends 2-1
3 DMA 4-0
4 A.I. DuPont 4-0
5 Caravel 2-2
6 Delmar 3-1
7 St. Mark's 3-1
8 Milford 2-2
9 Howard 3-1
10 Archmere 3-1

I have....
1. Middletown (Last Week #1)
2. Salesianum (2)
3. Smyrna (3)
4. Sussex Central (4)
5. Hodgson (6)
6. Wm Penn (5)
7. Sussex Tech (Unranked)
8. Poly Tech (Unranked)
9. CR (7)
10. St. Georges (10)

1. Woodbridge (Last Week - #1)
2. DMA (2)
3. Friends (3)
4. Delmar (5)
5. AI (6)
6. Caravel (Unranked)
7. Conrad (7)
8. St. Marks (Unranked)
9. Glasgow (10)
10. Howard (8)

https://www.dreamscoutingnetwork.com/dream-blog-news-events-polls--more

 

[SwagDog]

U made a comment about HVT not showing u "enough." So I guess My question is did u look at who DMA had beat this year?
Are u aware that the 4 teams they played have a COMBINED 5 wins........???

Swag, what are you asking me? IF I think DMA is a playoff/title
Contender?

Of course! They can only play who's on their schedule and year in and year out they have shown consistency. Would DMA crack the TOP 10 in Division 1, probably not. But we'll find out this weekend if they can after they meet Hodgson.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

U made a comment about HVT not showing u "enough." So I guess My question is did u look at who DMA had beat this year?
Are u aware that the 4 teams they played have a COMBINED 5 wins........???

Oh okay. Yes. No disrespect to Hodgson, typically they are one of the better teams in the state of Delaware. However, since Buck has graduated, they have underachieved immensely. DMA, has been on the rise and been competitive for a while now, we don't need to see who they play, because they are constantly winning and yes, they have played teams that aren't good, but in the manner they have won (shutout, blowout) suggests they are a good team.

Hodgson has fallen and has struggled, with Division 2 teams. And yes, they are back on the rise but they haven't showed me anything to convince me they are a team to fear in Division 1. A blow out by Central, struggled with Newark and allowed Howard to look competitive, suggests they aren't on the top 5 level yet. Even if they are a ranked that high.

So idk if that answers your question but I don't need DMA to show me anything because they are what we all assume they to be, a top team in D2 that will reach the postseason and contend for a title. Hodgson is now moved up to the "big boys" as some say and yes, they are 3-1 but the teams they have beaten or lost too, should be more convincing against Newark and Howard. They looked terrible against Central.

Hodgsons lone game to claim how good they could be should have been Concord but apparently Concord is not the team many thought they would be, and are a .500 or worse team.

This week. Those two meet, and a loss to DMA or a close game says that Hodgson still has a ways to go to catch Smyrna, Sallies, Middletown. I think they can beat Penn, and take the Runner up title in Flight A. We'll see soon enough as teams are entering the heart of their conference play.

 

[VoiceofReason247]

Oh okay. Yes. No disrespect to Hodgson, typically they are one of the better teams in the state of Delaware. However, since Buck has graduated, they have underachieved immensely. DMA, has been on the rise and been competitive for a while now, we don't need to see who they play, because they are constantly winning and yes, they have played teams that aren't good, but in the manner they have won (shutout, blowout) suggests they are a good team.

Hodgson has fallen and has struggled, with Division 2 teams. And yes, they are back on the rise but they haven't showed me anything to convince me they are a team to fear in Division 1. A blow out by Central, struggled with Newark and allowed Howard to look competitive, suggests they aren't on the top 5 level yet. Even if they are a ranked that high.

So idk if that answers your question but I don't need DMA to show me anything because they are what we all assume they to be, a top team in D2 that will reach the postseason and contend for a title. Hodgson is now moved up to the "big boys" as some say and yes, they are 3-1 but the teams they have beaten or lost too, should be more convincing against Newark and Howard. They looked terrible against Central.

Hodgsons lone game to claim how good they could be should have been Concord but apparently Concord is not the team many thought they would be, and are a .500 or worse team.

This week. Those two meet, and a loss to DMA or a close game says that Hodgson still has a ways to go to catch Smyrna, Sallies, Middletown. I think they can beat Penn, and take the Runner up title in Flight A. We'll see soon enough as teams are entering the heart of their conference play.

HS your post was well written but to me off base. I agree with Swag. Too many people place weight on what has been done in past rather that what is happening now. DMA is only a D2 top team in record only. This is probably the worst team DMA has had in the last 4-5 years. But as swag say the schedule is vaginal like. It is now week 5 and you can kind of start seeing who is who and DMA is Corahn Alleyne and you can judge that off of the Milford win. You can't say because they handily beat the othe 3 teams they are that good when the othe 3 team are really that bad. St. Es beat a very bad Mount team, Red Lion lost to St. Andrews who lost to Seaford and Charter is Charter. That's like saying , McKean is a good team and they blow out Christiana, Dickinson and FSMA. It's not true their opponents are that bad.

Then you counter that by saying Hodgson gets blown out by Central. Not tru score was 14-7 at half I believe and Hodgson had scored right before half but had a penalties to take away score and push them say they struggled with Newark and Howard when actually they man handled Newark but more sloppy and boneheaded plays took away TDs not to mention they didn't play their starting QB due to injury because they believed they could win without him. They had Howard 47-6 before they garbage TD made the final 47-12 but didn't know that was a struggle. Then you discredit they Concord when because they will finish around ?500 but will probably beat half the D1 teams and almost all the D2 teams.

This week those two teams will meet and Hodgson will handily beat DMA because DMA is the biggest liar in D2 year after year winning season a bunch of blowouts first Rd exit in playoffs.

 

[eagle control]

I like Sussex Central getting some recognition. Think they are even money with the Sals and quite frankly wouldn't be surprised if THAT is your state final.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

HS your post was well written but to me off base. I agree with Swag. Too many people place weight on what has been done in past rather that what is happening now. DMA is only a D2 top team in record only. This is probably the worst team DMA has had in the last 4-5 years. But as swag say the schedule is vaginal like. It is now week 5 and you can kind of start seeing who is who and DMA is Corahn Alleyne and you can judge that off of the Milford win. You can't say because they handily beat the othe 3 teams they are that good when the othe 3 team are really that bad. St. Es beat a very bad Mount team, Red Lion lost to St. Andrews who lost to Seaford and Charter is Charter. That's like saying , McKean is a good team and they blow out Christiana, Dickinson and FSMA. It's not true their opponents are that bad.

Then you counter that by saying Hodgson gets blown out by Central. Not tru score was 14-7 at half I believe and Hodgson had scored right before half but had a penalties to take away score and push them say they struggled with Newark and Howard when actually they man handled Newark but more sloppy and boneheaded plays took away TDs not to mention they didn't play their starting QB due to injury because they believed they could win without him. They had Howard 47-6 before they garbage TD made the final 47-12 but didn't know that was a struggle. Then you discredit they Concord when because they will finish around ?500 but will probably beat half the D1 teams and almost all the D2 teams.

This week those two teams will meet and Hodgson will handily beat DMA because DMA is the biggest liar in D2 year after year winning season a bunch of blowouts first Rd exit in playoffs.

Voice, I see what you're saying, and may have me convinced. You said and brought up some things that I didn't know and overlooked! Thank you

 

[proudscfan]

HS your post was well written but to me off base. I agree with Swag. Too many people place weight on what has been done in past rather that what is happening now. DMA is only a D2 top team in record only. This is probably the worst team DMA has had in the last 4-5 years. But as swag say the schedule is vaginal like. It is now week 5 and you can kind of start seeing who is who and DMA is Corahn Alleyne and you can judge that off of the Milford win. You can't say because they handily beat the othe 3 teams they are that good when the othe 3 team are really that bad. St. Es beat a very bad Mount team, Red Lion lost to St. Andrews who lost to Seaford and Charter is Charter. That's like saying , McKean is a good team and they blow out Christiana, Dickinson and FSMA. It's not true their opponents are that bad.

Then you counter that by saying Hodgson gets blown out by Central. Not tru score was 14-7 at half I believe and Hodgson had scored right before half but had a penalties to take away score and push them say they struggled with Newark and Howard when actually they man handled Newark but more sloppy and boneheaded plays took away TDs not to mention they didn't play their starting QB due to injury because they believed they could win without him. They had Howard 47-6 before they garbage TD made the final 47-12 but didn't know that was a struggle. Then you discredit they Concord when because they will finish around ?500 but will probably beat half the D1 teams and almost all the D2 teams.

This week those two teams will meet and Hodgson will handily beat DMA because DMA is the biggest liar in D2 year after year winning season a bunch of blowouts first Rd exit in playoffs.

I wouldn't say Central blew out Hodgson but I can tell you that Hodgson was never in that game and never really did anything of note. Central was a little sloppy. Couple tunovers,penaltys and the personal fouls really hurt but Central controlled the game from start to finish.

 

[BigDEnd97]

Voice, I see what you're saying, and may have me convinced. You said and brought up some things that I didn't know and overlooked! Thank you

Wow a rational well thought out debate on here without shots and name calling... who knew?? lol good stuff gentlemen!

 

[ravensrooster2]

HVT has a history of starting slow. The two years they won back to back championships they lost the season opener to Caravel both years

 

[BigDEnd97]

As a biased fan of DMA with a child that goes there... I do tend to think this is a big time measuring stick for DMA. Do I think they will win? I don't know.... I think it would be tough, they def have the size on the Lines to compete, but I don't know if they have the horses to match HVT. Take out Alleyne and its an avg team maybe. the offense is rather predictable and the defense is soft in the secondary. It will be interesting to see how they compete with HVT... CAN DMA win? yes... WILL they win? doubtful... Ill be happy for a competitive loss in a close game, and ecstatic for a win... we shall see come Saturday afternoon.

 

[VoiceofReason247]

I wouldn't say Central blew out Hodgson but I can tell you that Hodgson was never in that game and never really did anything of note. Central was a little sloppy. Couple tunovers,penaltys and the personal fouls really hurt but Central controlled the game from start to finish.

SMH Proudscfan.... I see you are truly a proud fan but a little delusional about a game that was recorded and online (1:38 mark on 302sports). Central wasn't in control of that game until the second half mainly after the 40+ QB run up their sideline which lead to the only score of the second half. Like I said earlier Hodgson had the ball down 7-12 on the 1 yard line with 2 seconds left in the half. They scored on the QB sneak but whistle was blown before the play started for equipment infraction (announcer said a Hodgson player didn't have mouth piece in). Hodgson followed that with a good rollout play and Heyward dropped TD in the endzone. So instead of Hodgson going into half with a 13-12 lead at worst instead they were down.

*Sidenote* Heyward's reaction to dropping the pass is comical. He is mad at QB for him dropping a catchable ball.

Proudscfan I don't think that is Central controlling the game from start to finish.

 

[proudscfan]

SMH Proudscfan.... I see you are truly a proud fan but a little delusional about a game that was recorded and online (1:38 mark on 302sports). Central wasn't in control of that game until the second half mainly after the 40+ QB run up their sideline which lead to the only score of the second half. Like I said earlier Hodgson had the ball down 7-12 on the 1 yard line with 2 seconds left in the half. They scored on the QB sneak but whistle was blown before the play started for equipment infraction (announcer said a Hodgson player didn't have mouth piece in). Hodgson followed that with a good rollout play and Heyward dropped TD in the endzone. So instead of Hodgson going into half with a 13-12 lead at worst instead they were down.

*Sidenote* Heyward's reaction to dropping the pass is comical. He is mad at QB for him dropping a catchable ball.

Proudscfan I don't think that is Central controlling the game from start to finish.

You are right, I am a proud fan but I do call it like I see it. I have watched all of Centrals games this year. They have had their moments where they have looked really good. But I have said that Central needs to reduce the turnovers and personal fouls. They have really hurt so far this year. They cut both out against Dover and that resulted in a blowout. Central is a really good team this year. They play really aggressive defense and their offense is very run oriented but they are throwing the ball more this year. Lots of good athletes with playmakers. But......... I think they are an undersized team and I think may catch up to them if they face teams with size like Middletown or Sallies.
So I am not a delusional fan with blinders on. I am sorry that didnt see the HVT game the same way you did. I don't need to go back and watch it on 302, I was there in person. Once again I felt like Central controlled the game. A game doesn't have to be a blowout to feel like a team is in control. We have all seen games that are close in score and you wonder how a team sticks around even when they are outplayed. When you described the series down at the goal line that sounds like a lot of it's and buts. Right? We all could do that.

 

[CHS89]

I like Sussex Central getting some recognition. Think they are even money with the Sals and quite frankly wouldn't be surprised if THAT is your state final.

I would’nt bet my house on it. Give it about 1000-1 odds. Smyrna or Middletown, if not both, will be in the Finals. Take it to the bank.

 

[dovetail]

I like Sussex Central getting some recognition. Think they are even money with the Sals and quite frankly wouldn't be surprised if THAT is your state final.

Maybe with all that new found power they would be willing to finally schedule the Sals. Scimmage, si. Game, nada.

 

[Chesdel]

Central rarely comes North of the C & D canal. It is a shame. Will they be coming North to play at Hodgson next year? I think they played at Concord a couple years back....

If people want to give the nod to Central over The Big S at this point that's fine. The Sals kind of dropped down a peg with the self destruct loss to Judge.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

With Smyrna and Middletown looming.....can the sals afford another loss? This episcopal team and Westminster will be no slouches.

 

[VoiceofReason247]

You are right, I am a proud fan but I do call it like I see it. I have watched all of Centrals games this year. They have had their moments where they have looked really good. But I have said that Central needs to reduce the turnovers and personal fouls. They have really hurt so far this year. They cut both out against Dover and that resulted in a blowout. Central is a really good team this year. They play really aggressive defense and their offense is very run oriented but they are throwing the ball more this year. Lots of good athletes with playmakers. But......... I think they are an undersized team and I think may catch up to them if they face teams with size like Middletown or Sallies.
So I am not a delusional fan with blinders on. I am sorry that didnt see the HVT game the same way you did. I don't need to go back and watch it on 302, I was there in person. Once again I felt like Central controlled the game. A game doesn't have to be a blowout to feel like a team is in control. We have all seen games that are close in score and you wonder how a team sticks around even when they are outplayed. When you described the series down at the goal line that sounds like a lot of it's and buts. Right? We all could do that.

No ifs and buts just disagree with control of game from beginning to end. Central is a good well coached team that will contend for playoff spot. The first half of 1st game of the season both teams had mistakes and both teams were playing good football at times. I get if you were confident that Central was going to win but that is different than control. Hodgson had the ball inside Central's 25 3 or 4 times in the first half and came up with only 7 points that isn't Central controlling the game but rather a mix of good defense and bad offense. Controlling the game you aren't being threatened like that.

Now like I said after they scored the opening drive of the second half to go up 20-7 then they began taking a firm grip on the game up 13 in a second half is when a good wing T offense with a solid defense puts you in a choke hold. It's okay I don't blame you, I blame your heart. It is no different than Eagles fans claiming this is their your every year. You only see what you want to see.

 

[VoiceofReason247]

With Smyrna and Middletown looming.....can the sals afford another loss? This episcopal team and Westminster will be no slouches.

Sallies cannot lose to both OOS teams

 

[proudscfan]

No ifs and buts just disagree with control of game from beginning to end. Central is a good well coached team that will contend for playoff spot. The first half of 1st game of the season both teams had mistakes and both teams were playing good football at times. I get if you were confident that Central was going to win but that is different than control. Hodgson had the ball inside Central's 25 3 or 4 times in the first half and came up with only 7 points that isn't Central controlling the game but rather a mix of good defense and bad offense. Controlling the game you aren't being threatened like that.

Now like I said after they scored the opening drive of the second half to go up 20-7 then they began taking a firm grip on the game up 13 in a second half is when a good wing T offense with a solid defense puts you in a choke hold. It's okay I don't blame you, I blame your heart. It is no different than Eagles fans claiming this is their your every year. You only see what you want to see.

Blame my heart? I've been married for 20 years, my heart was ripped out years ago. Seriously, we don't agree on the flow of the game and that is ok. I don't live and breathe with the team. I'm very objective with my feelings of the team. They are good. Are they state champion good? .......doubtful. They are fun to watch. Sorry we have different views of HVT.

 

[Uncle Bumfuzzled]

Sallies cannot lose to both OOS teams

That reminds me of a funny story. Bummy's future son in law came into the house wearing a gold Salesianum ball cap. On the front of the hat was 1903. He told me that was the year Salesianum got started. I said: Wow! I misunderstood. I thought it was the number of combined passing yards that they will give up against Middletown and Smyrna.

Damn. I am funny.

 

[eagle control]

That reminds me of a funny story. Bummy's future son in law came into the house wearing a gold Salesianum ball cap. On the front of the hat was 1903. He told me that was the year Salesianum got started. I said: Wow! I misunderstood. I thought it was the number of combined passing yards that they will give up against Middletown and Smyrna.

Damn. I am funny.

The hats have just been released and you remember? Damn bummy I think you need some more warm milk

 

[7nonstop3]

U made a comment about HVT not showing u "enough." So I guess My question is did u look at who DMA had beat this year?
Are u aware that the 4 teams they played have a COMBINED 5 wins........???

We lose 14-8 and they got lucky. According to you the mighty D1 school should have beat us 56 -0 your classification sucks. Best teams are in D2 DMA runs through all of them now. We are a different team and would not lose. Coaches make teams with players. You act like any D1 school because they have a lot of people are good. What if we just put a random coach from pop Warner on A D1 school. They don’t win. You have no respect for the DMA legacy that’s being built. And also no respect for the boys that play.