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in case anyone wants to see it here are Tuesday's match ups


@A.i. DuPont 6:15
A.i. Vs. Howard
DMA vs. Salesianum
7:15
A.i. Vs. Salesianum
DMA vs. Howard

@St. marks 6:15
St. Marks vs. St.Elizabeths
Mckean vs. Brandywine
7:15
St. Marks vs. Brandywine
St.Elizabeths vs. Mckean

@Caravel 5:15
Caravel vs. North East
Glasgow vs. Elkton
6:15
North East vs. Appo
Elkton vs. Smyrna
7:15
Smyrna vs. Glasgow
Caravel vs. Appo

@Middletown 5:15
Middletown vs. Dover
6:15
Dover vs. Delcastle
7:15
Delcastle vs. Middletown
 
Yes he did. We said he looked like a college tight end. I didn't watch much of their games with Smyrna and appo but how did Dover look? Anyone chime in?
 
So any updates throughout the 7on7? Couldn't make any tonight but the last 15 mins of Middletown/Dover.

How'd Smyrna, Sallies DMA, caravel look?
 
I stopped by CA on the way home from work for a bit.. Appo has a decent looking young QB with nice size and length,, Nice short throwing motion and has obviously had some schooling. I have no idea who he is or name but he could be a good one..Didn't see much else from them.. CA is what I thought skills look great but breaking in two kids who never played QB before it was obvious so there is work to be done there.. Peeked over at Smyrna a few times,, Smyrna QB has a nice stroke and throws a tight ball.. Accurate in the quick slants and over the middle passes but struggles outside of those parameters,, Tries to throw everything 100mph and doesn't exhibit much touch which causes his passes to the outside to get away from him or he tries to force it and throws it into the chest of the defenders,, I got the feeling he is trying to hard to live up to being Nolan and just needs to realize he is not Nolan and play to his strength which is rolling from the pocket and creating on the run.. as for the other teams there didn't see much JMHO
 
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OK so at the 7v7 games I got into a conversation with a gentleman where we were discussing the transfers and academic eligibility. I was under the impression 2.0 gpa was the threshold as it was before.. Evidently its been changed, The gentleman told me you could have a less than 2.0 and remain eligible, So me being me I checked the current DIAA rules and he was right,, The rule is now you have to pass 5 classes and 2 failures cant be two core classes.. So essentially you can have D's in 5 classes and two F's in two classes providing both F classes are not core classes,, which would be less than a 2.0 gpa,, so if one F class is English but the other is an elective you're good to go. Thoughts?
 
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My first thought is to be academically ineligible in DE you have to basically refuse to do any work,,
 
Appos QB is Shane Phipps. Senior with size. 6'3" maybe 6'4". Pretty sure he played with team delaware this summer. Never seen him play in person though.
 
ravensrooster2 said:
OK so at the 7v7 games I got into a conversation with a gentleman where we were discussing the transfers and academic eligibility. I was under the impression 2.0 gpa was the threshold as it was before.. Evidently its been changed, The gentleman told me you could have a less than 2.0 and remain eligible, So me being me I checked the current DIAA rules and he was right,, The rule is now you have to pass 5 classes and 2 failures cant be two core classes.. So essentially you can have D's in 5 classes and two F's in two classes providing both F classes are not core classes,, which would be less than a 2.0 gpa,, so if one F class is English but the other is an elective you're good to go. Thoughts?
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The eligibility is close to what you said. You have to pass 5 classes, and 2 have to be core classes. You can fail 2 cores and be eligible. Some schools have kids taking 8 classes and vast majority use a 10 point scale. Salesianum uses a 2.0 minimum, and some other privates maybe. No publics do the 2.0 that I know of.
 
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The eligibility is close to what you said. You have to pass 5 classes, and 2 have to be core classes. You can fail 2 cores and be eligible. Some schools have kids taking 8 classes and vast majority use a 10 point scale. Salesianum uses a 2.0 minimum, and some other privates maybe. No publics do the 2.0 that I know of.
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Thanks for the clarification Soccer. CA its 2.0 but you to have like a 65 to get a 2.. also if you fall below a 2.5 in any class you are immediately put on academic probation and must take study hall in that class every day until it comes up.. if does not come up they may suspend you from athletics until it does.. bottom line is CA doesnt really have academic ineligibles because you would be shown the door before that happens
 
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Thanks for the clarification Soccer. CA its 2.0 but you have have like a 65 to a 2.. also if you fall below a 2.5 in any class you are immediately put on academic probation and must take study hall in that class every day until it comes up.. if does not come up they may suspend you from athletics until it does.. bottom line is CA doesnt really have academic ineligibles because you would be shown the door before that happens
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Happened a couple of times when my son was there on the baseball team. Won't name any names.
 
So, has anyone actually watched some games and care to comment on what they have witnessed? Thanks
 
I've seen Mtown, Dover, Appo and Smyrna. So far, Middletown seems ahead above everyone else. But as mentioned, pads tell the whole story.

I've seemed Smyrna, just the once and I'm not impressed. Definitely a fall since last season. As far as 7on7 goes. They were more dangerous last season.

I would like to hear how sallies is doing? They graduated quite a few athletes. What's the QB, RB, and WRs like?
 
Also, I'd like to add that I'm not putting too much into the drop that Smyrna looks like they have. There's a lot of factors that could be contributing to that. Some being, a new QB trying to learn the complex system that Smyrna runs. The playbook is a lot wider than most high schools. Throw in the fact that he is trying to fill the void that Henderson has left which are HUGE shoes to fill, something that town has had in a while. The expectations that the town and team are putting on this kid are a lot, so it's going to take some time for him to adjust. But I still predict a strong playoff run, if not title.
 
You guys probably don't care about the D2 teams but I have seen the following teams up north in Week 1 & Week 2
Sallies looks bad and unless some athletes are not playing 7v7 they are struggling offensively in the passing game. Will have to rely heavily on the defense and the line to produce a dominate run game because WR can't get open.

AI looks like AI athletes around the field making plays. Smaller in stature than in the past but still confident. QB will toss the ball around better competition a lot of INTs but when the pads come on I'm hearing they don't have many linemen.

St. Es is fighting hard but doesn't look like they have enough to compete. Interesting to see if the offense will change with OC now HC and no Cropper.

McKean is looking a lot more organized and confident. Came back and beat St. Marks with less than 30 seconds in the game. Similar to AI athletes at skill positions but may be fools gold they had success last year 7v7 and when pads came on it was a totally different team.

Delcastle - a couple of athletes but a long way to go and I'll just leave it there.

Howard athletically dominate good sized but that athleticism isn't transitioning or they are just too young not sure. May be a year away. They are rotating their QBs a lot so not sure if they are looking for a new QB or just giving them all reps.

Brandywine looks unlike Brandywine a few ballplayers on the team have a 6'3 or 6'4" WR/TE that is causing teams a lot of trouble. Their QB was throwing some nice balls. Heard they gave Sallies fits week 1.

St. Mark's has a mix of old and new players so will be interesting to see if the new players can step up. They fell apart at the end against McKean. Looking for QB to replace Sullivan. Looks to be two juniors battling it out. David Balint's younger brother maybe looks to be a big weapon for them offensively at 6'2. Look for them to finish the year and make the playoffs in Div 2 this season.

DMA is struggling themselves but they will just get those big linemen together and plow over that weaker schedule again to make the plays.
 
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Also, I'd like to add that I'm not putting too much into the drop that Smyrna looks like they have. There's a lot of factors that could be contributing to that. Some being, a new QB trying to learn the complex system that Smyrna runs. The playbook is a lot wider than most high schools. Throw in the fact that he is trying to fill the void that Henderson has left which are HUGE shoes to fill, something that town has had in a while. The expectations that the town and team are putting on this kid are a lot, so it's going to take some time for him to adjust. But I still predict a strong playoff run, if not title.
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HSftballlaxFan hard to believe Smyrna's playbook is that complex when they run the same few plays every week. Most spread no huddle teams playbooks are not complex as far as plays they just run different formations. Can't do to many different things when your offensive communication is limited to hand signals and cardboard pictures.
 
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HSftballlaxFan hard to believe Smyrna's playbook is that complex when they run the same few plays every week. Most spread no huddle teams playbooks are not complex as far as plays they just run different formations. Can't do to many different things when your offensive communication is limited to hand signals and cardboard pictures.
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I'm guessing but I don't think the playbook is that complex strictly in terms of volume of plays but I think on the passes they ask the QB to go through a number of reads which is tough for high school kids. Nolan made it look easy. He often threw to a wide open kid but he also often found them on his 2nd or 3rd read. Watching these other QBs makes it obvious to me that Nolan had something most don't. Hoping the new kid can do well in the system.
 
I've never seen the playbook, however, I do play football with a kid on the team every Sunday morning (our own little pick up games) so I assume he's a good source, but he said it's pretty thick, and him being a wide receiver I assume he's got plenty of pages to study.
 
What they do is call a theme.. something like all slants.. they line up see the defensive set and marks signals in route changes and protection changes.. like he may see the slot defender taking inside leverage taking the slant away and change the slot to a disco route(fake the slant then cut out).. the wide guy on his side may get changed to a fly or deep post to clear. mostly stuff like that but there is allot to learn particularly all the audibles as well as the protection audibles. The RB really has to be on top of things and know who he has to pick up and it changes with the calls. the running plays are basic read option zone blocking plays.. The cards and pics are mostly dummy signs.. As the QB gets more familiar the QB will call the protection audibles and maybe even the route changes but a QB isn't going to get there in 1 year or 2 for that matter
 
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What they do is call a theme.. something like all slants.. they line up see the defensive set and marks signals in route changes and protection changes.. like he may see the slot defender taking inside leverage taking the slant away and change the slot to a disco route(fake the slant then cut out).. the wide guy on his side may get changed to a fly or deep post to clear. mostly stuff like that but there is allot to learn particularly all the audibles as well as the protection audibles. The RB really has to be on top of things and know who he has to pick up and it changes with the calls. the running plays are basic read option zone blocking plays.. The cards and pics are mostly dummy signs.. As the QB gets more familiar the QB will call the protection audibles and maybe even the route changes but a QB isn't going to get there in 1 year or 2 for that matter
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Raven.. That is a well written and advance level stuff and I agree with you on the sideline audibles but not that advanced primarily because they are a 1 side RPO team. You can tell that by the laziness of backside routes. Henderson after 3 years probably had freedom to audible on the line but very rarely made a throw to 2nd or 3rd read in the pocket it was more scramble drill stuff with his exceptional skill to move around and avoid defenders, but all the other stuff as much as Coach Judy and staff probably wants to prepare his kids for all of those things. IMO I don't believe it happens for a couple of reasons.
1) 90-95% of their passes are RPO or play action so after the keep read or fake, he had 1 or 2 people to throw it to.
2) The RB is involved that heavily involved in pass protection to where he has to know who to pick up in certain calls. One because most of the time he is carrying out a ball fake several times 5-10 yards down the field Secondly DE coaches are so scared of the spread they all play Smryna in that 32 2 high look. Smyrna rarely sees any stunts, line twist or blitzes. So they just man block up front. It is a really said thing to watch.
 
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HSftballlaxFan said:
I've never seen the playbook, however, I do play football with a kid on the team every Sunday morning (our own little pick up games) so I assume he's a good source, but he said it's pretty thick, and him being a wide receiver I assume he's got plenty of pages to study.
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HSftballlaxFan who knows but it's probably not the plays but the terminology that is what tricks up most kids. Wilson had a similar offense at Glasgow but it was like elementary vs HS. Glasgow's spread was very basic.
 
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soccer07 said:
The eligibility is close to what you said. You have to pass 5 classes, and 2 have to be core classes. You can fail 2 cores and be eligible. Some schools have kids taking 8 classes and vast majority use a 10 point scale. Salesianum uses a 2.0 minimum, and some other privates maybe. No publics do the 2.0 that I know of.
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DMA has a 2.0 minimum to play sports
 
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