Playoff Revision-Would this be fair?

[Jawnsky]

Every year/Every season/Everyone seems to have a take on how to improve the playoff team selections.Division 2 now has 8 so for this discussion I will use Division 1 as an example as I do not believe taking 8 teams is on the horizon. However, if 8 teams did go that would go a long way. I am neutral on taking 8-no matter to me.....hell more football to watch!

I am going to present this in its simplest form with 2 choices working on same premise and would like to hear your thoughts on this possibility without all of us trying to reinvent the wheel.

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Option 1
Flight A and Henlopen North get auto bids but are seeded by points.
Teams #3-4-5 are points based/seeded accordingly etc.
# 6 team is voted in by a selection committee.

Option 2
No auto bids
Teams 1 thru 4 based on points/seeded accordingly
Teams 5 and 6 are voted in by a selection committee.

As of now the team that will not be there but are ranked by the NJ and Coaches as one of the top 6 in the State would be Salesianum. By seasons end that could change but you cannot convince me that a 7-3 (if win out) or a 6-4 (loss to MT) Sals squad does not belong in there. The NJ has them at #4 and Coaches at #5.

Say they go 7-3 (sorry Cavs)....their in state losses to WP and St Marks and 3rd loss to Poly Prep who would beat any team in Delaware. Explain to me in your best unbiased opinion how they should not get in?

Say they lose to the Cavs and go 6-4, are they still not one of the top 6 teams in De????

Most importantly-let us know which of the 2 options above that you would like to see go into place. If you do not like either-that's ok too-please explain why.

 

[SCash]

I like the top 8 format I feel like all deserving teams would get in. I agree that Salesinum is a top 5 team. It would be ashame for them and their kids not to make the playoffs, when they have lost to only the top teams in Delaware and top out of state competition but have beating some good in state teams. Last year, St. Marks had to squeak in even though they had beaten a couple of playoff teams doesn't seem fair to the kids.

 

[oldtimer22]

If Sallies wins out they should be in but it is a stretch point wise.

 

[TouchThemAll]

I don't like either 6-team option. They both solve the (potential) Sallies problem this year, but next year it will be a different problem, and the #5 and/or #6 might not be so obvious.

Where did the 6 team format come from? A bye is supposed to be a reward for winning the regular season. The current system isn't set up to produce a legitimate regular season winner since some teams don't play each other, and OOS teams are part of the mix. (Although this year WP has certainly earned their #1.) Changing from 6 to 8 teams wouldn't extend the season, and probably wouldn't cost anything after factoring in ticket revenue. If you don't get the top 4-5 teams in an 8 team format, then you need to tweak the points system.

 

[ikeyfbst]

The number of teams in the tournament is pretty much even percentage wise between D-1 and D-2, so I don't think adding two more teams would be fair. There is no way a comittie should be picking any teams for the tournament. Back in 2011 Sallies got in with what is projected to be an idnetical 7-3 record to this season, thanks in large part to bonus points that put them ahead of some in state D-1 teams. Nobody complained then, so what's the problem now? Maybe Sallies makes it in, maybe they don't, but I bet if they had beaten STM there would have been no need for this discussion.

 

[dovetail]

I bet you are right. The Sals did the unmentionable to the Pooch by playing one of their most inept games all season handing STM two gift TD's. Last year, that team had leadership with guys like O'Neal and T. Reeder. I just don't see that this year. This looks like a team that is playing out the string.

 

[oldskool42]

Jawnsky,

Sorry i don't like the idea of a committee deciding anything. In theory, you would hope that a committee of fair and realistic individuals would award the most deserving team. But not only do i think that people would tend to push their own agendas, but also "derserving" is very subjective.

I think the points are the only way to fairly decide the spots. Of course the points calculation could be tweeked but at this point its the most fair way i think.

I personally would prefer that D1 go to 8 teams. No byes. As someone else pointed out, i don't know if anyone truly deserves or needs a bye. You don't add weeks, just 2 venues. More games, more revenue. This way your assured you don't leave out a good team and also you have two additional teams of kids getting to feel the excitement of playoff time.

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Personally I don't like any change, at least right now.

If it's about being fair and making kids feel the excitement of playoffs then why not let every team into the playoffs!

The reason this debate is up is because this year the quality of teams is top heavy. That will change next year after st. Marks moves down. We might get a 6-4 team into the playoffs next season and with that said, is a 6-4 team really deserving? One game over .500? I don't think so. No matter how strong the schedule is. I can even debate that for a 7-3 team.

The saying is, beat who's on your schedule and there's no questions about making the playoffs. Sallies might get left out, but if they won their games they wouldn't. Besides, They still have a chance. If they win out, or If they suffer a loss to Middletown. Bonus points will go far sallies. Your getting at least one from Middletown, poly prep, st. Marks, William penn, and maybe even concord if they win out. Those points alone could get you a 6th seed, a 5th seed if they handle business against Middletown.


The only thing I wish to change is that a team has to play a minimum number of in-state games to make the playoffs. Theres some D2 schools who play nothing but out of state opponents some years, with maybe 2-3 in state games, and because of points, they will reach the playoffs. I think a schedule should have AT LEAST a minimum of 5-6 in state games. I say that because I know for some schools its hard or teams like Salesianum who likes to schedule those 3 games OOS.
This post was edited on 10/24 1:12 PM by HSftballlaxFan

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Nothing to do with a playoff system, but one thing I would like to change is the 8 game conference you have to play if you are in Fllight A. Id like to go back to the 7 game conference schedule, that way those teams can schedule some of the Henlopen North teams. You can get a better glimpse of where each conference stands against each other.

 

[sportn2011]

Poly prep would NOT beat Penn this year and st marks is better than them also.....win the games on your schedule and you will make the playoffs period.....you get up to 10 chances to go undefeated...if you lose ...."play the ball where it lies"

 

[football_expert18]

Poly Prep WOULD beat Penn by two touchdowns, and would dominate Saint Marks. Im guessing you weren't at the Poly vs Sals game.

 

[oldskool42]

HS...i like where you are going with the minimum in state games. I would go further and say NO OUT OF STATE GAMES count towards the Delaware State Playoffs. I like that our teams play some out of state competition, but i don't think the outcome should effect your status for the Delaware playoffs, negatively or positively. This way, if Sallies wants to play the top team in the country, knowing they will probably lose, they can still do it with NO impact to Delaware playoffs. As long as they play their minimum of six in state games. Only those games accumulate points, then divide by the number of games played in state. Its a true "how did you do in Delaware" calculation.

I might be willing to go so far to say that we do the same with out of division games. If a D2 team plays a D1 team, that game doesn't factor into the D2 playoff calculation. Same for the D1 playoff calculation. I think this allows teams in D1 to play a D2 school without playoff point repercussions. Right now a D1 team is foolish for playing a D2 team.

Therefore back to the first paragraph, only games against in state division foes are considered in that divisions playoff point calculation. So if Sallies plays 2 out of state teams and two D2 teams....only the six games against Delaware D1 teams racks up points. Divide that number by 6. Thats their D1 playoff point index.

 

[carlo12]

Poly has something like 4 DI schlorship kids, and 5 others that will play at lower levels, 9 out of 27 kids that will continue to play in college is very, very impressive for such a small school, they are the best team I have seen this year, did not see Montclair, but have seen all of the top 5 in Delaware

 

[Eddie Shore]

Yeah Dove, 'gift touchdowns' are a problem. But why sweat it when it only happens once every three years....

 

[dovetail]

Edgil; when you don't have to work up a sweat to get six, that's a gift.

 

[ikeyfbst]

Since it was brought up, I hate the term "gift touchdown" IMO there is no such thing. If one team makes a mistake and the other team takes advantage of it, that is opportunistic. Execution is direct reflection of what a football team is made of, plain and simple.

 

[dovetail]

Semantics will get you nowhere.

 

[fanoffootball123]

Poly Prep would beat anyone in Delaware and so would Montclair

 

[sportn2011]

Penn's national rank :365.......Polly 1005........I'm guessing the grass is greener theory must be in use.....I saw poly, Montclair, Penn and Mark's play this year and my eyes stand by my previous statement....

 

[fanoffootball123]

I don't care about National rankings. I agree with your point of beat who's on your schedule though. If Sallies misses the playoffs its because of losing to Penn and St. Mark's and not Poly Prep.

 

[ikeyfbst]

Originally posted by dovetail:
Semantics will get you nowhere.

Oh, I know it's my problem. I just wanted to share with the rest of the class.

 

[spartakos]

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poor Jawnsky going crazy trying to figure out if the Clones will live to play another day...hahaha


just saying


p.s. heading over for a little tailgate action before another victory..

 

[ikeyfbst]

It just hit me, one of the ideas is to have eight teams make the tourney. No way, that means you play 10 games to eliminate just over half the teams. This isn't the NBA, just win your games.

 

[Jawnsky]

Originally posted by ikeyfbst:


It just hit me, one of the ideas is to have eight teams make the tourney. No way, that means you play 10 games to eliminate just over half the teams. This isn't the NBA, just win your games.

ikey- I mentioned the 8 team scenario but it was not one of my options. It has been mentioned before and I personally do not care but if had to make a call, my answer would be a NO (too many)

 

[Jawnsky]

Originally posted by spartakos:

@Jawnsky

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poor Jawnsky going crazy trying to figure out if the Clones will live to play another day...hahaha


just saying


p.s. heading over for a little tailgate action before another victory..

Not too shabby......we need #2.....hey can you do me a favor? Help Blue Tea find his Choadsky please....maybe post a lost and found pic to aid him?

 

[FBLAX23]

Why don't we just skip the playoff format altogether and just get it over with and name Sallies the State Champion. In fact, why don't we just do that in all sports............To win as much as you do, you Sallies supporters are a bunch of Cry Babies.

 

[Chesdel]

I would keep things exactly as they are. The point system is neutral and easy to administer. The only way it would be perfectly equitable is if everyone played the same schedule which is impossible.

 

[Chesdel]

Originally posted by Jawnsky:

Originally posted by spartakos:

@Jawnsky

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poor Jawnsky going crazy trying to figure out if the Clones will live to play another day...hahaha


just saying


p.s. heading over for a little tailgate action before another victory..

Not too shabby......we need #2.....hey can you do me a favor? Help Blue Tea find his Choadsky please....maybe post a lost and found pic to aid him?

Uncle Angelo opined last night that he likes Sparty's pics!! My sense he is talking about the women.

 

[spartakos]

@Jawnsky

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Choad Ferguson....aka baby Blue Tea,,,,haha
minus the glasses


just saying
This post was edited on 10/25 7:04 PM by spartakos

 

[spartakos]

@Ches

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we would probably be speaking German if it wasn't for these fellows...

Thanks U.A.....
This post was edited on 10/25 7:13 PM by spartakos

 

[Jawnsky]

Originally posted by spartakos:

@Jawnsky

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Choad Ferguson....aka baby Blue Tea,,,,haha
minus the glasses


just saying

This post was edited on 10/25 7:04 PM by spartakos

Sparty- this is classic! I might have to print this out and distribute flyers at Sals games for BT.

You can read it now- This pic of baby Tea and "Have you seen my Choadsky".......

 

[ikeyfbst]

Originally posted by spartakos:

@Ches

pic # 3

we would probably be speaking German if it wasn't for these fellows...

Thanks U.A.....

This post was edited on 10/25 7:13 PM by spartakos

Just picked up a copy of the book at a yard sale. I had read it a couple of times, now I have assigned it to my boys as a must read. Maybe this should be required reading in high school, so people can really understand what character is all about.

 

[wingstopaws0912]

There is no need for a change in the system. This system has been fine for years. I don't think Delaware football will go into a systematic shut down if Sallies doesnt make the tourney.

 

[Chesdel]

I agree. The point system is fine as is....and I don't think anybody would accuse me of being a Big S hater.

 

[WoodenStick]

Agree with you, too, Ches. Despite what the usual group of Sals haters say, I don't see a whole lot of crying from the Sals gang. The Sals screwed up on multiple levels - first, scheduling so many Div 2 teams (in state and OOS) and second, bringing less than inspired play and game plan to the St Marks game. No excuses for either - especially when both are in their control.

The Penn game was an exciting game that could have gone either way and the PolyPrep game was a clear win for Prep. Now, they have to win out and hope for some help from others. I thought CR was going to be one of those helpers last Friday night. Sounds like it was a great game!

 

[delawarenole]

The only change I think is needed is how we account for some OOS schools. We use the same measuring stick as we do in state - number of kids - to decide if a school is D1 or D2 and OOS that doesn't hold true IMO.

Some schools like Polly should be considered D1 and treated as such when you count the points. There needs to be another measure - maybe the level of play or classification they use in their own state which in many cases is driven by how good the teams are and not the school size.

Now Sallies did screw up and schedule too many schools considered D2. Thats on them.