New to the lacrosse world and curious as to how the seedings are determined for the playoffs. I visited the DIAA website and can not find any info...any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
How is the seedings determined?
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Unfortunately, and for reasons I don't understand, it is tracked for every sport by the DIAA, but is only accessible to AD's.
Is it strictly the points, or is there auto spots for conference champs like in some other sports?
DIAA 2013 Spring Sports Tournament Manual:
A. The tournament field will be comprised of the following 16 teams:
1. The Champions of the following Conferences;
Blue Hen, Henlopen and Independent.
2. At-large teams depending on how many Conference Champions qualify, the number needed to reach 16.
A. The tournament field will be comprised of the following 16 teams:
1. The Champions of the following Conferences;
Blue Hen, Henlopen and Independent.
2. At-large teams depending on how many Conference Champions qualify, the number needed to reach 16.
A team must meet the DIAA qualifying criteria which state:
A team must play a minimum of 12 games at the varsity level in order to be considered for the tournament. A game will count as a varsity contest only if the opposing team has played at least 10 games against varsity opponents, these games must be the played during that opponent's regular season games, post-season games will not be considered. Only the first 15 regular season games of your opponent will count for seeding purposes.
So, if the conference champion didn't meet that criteria, they would not get the automatic bid to the tournament.
It really seems to be a non-issue with the current-day team schedules. Maybe it was an issue in the past.
A team must play a minimum of 12 games at the varsity level in order to be considered for the tournament. A game will count as a varsity contest only if the opposing team has played at least 10 games against varsity opponents, these games must be the played during that opponent's regular season games, post-season games will not be considered. Only the first 15 regular season games of your opponent will count for seeding purposes.
So, if the conference champion didn't meet that criteria, they would not get the automatic bid to the tournament.
It really seems to be a non-issue with the current-day team schedules. Maybe it was an issue in the past.
Thanks much clearer now.One last question does Henlopen have two automatic bids for the North and South ,and if only one do they have a Henlopen championship game?
Hmmmm ... the manual doesn't reference the two divisions in the Blue Hen and Henlopen conferences. It just says the following:
Conferences will determine their Champion using their established criteria. A Conference Champions MUST be determined by May 11, 2013
So, each conference must name an overall champ for tournament purposes, I guess. How that is done is up to each conference.
Conferences will determine their Champion using their established criteria. A Conference Champions MUST be determined by May 11, 2013
So, each conference must name an overall champ for tournament purposes, I guess. How that is done is up to each conference.
Here's the full rules:
Item 1. Tournament Field
A. The tournament field will be comprised of the following 16 teams:
1. The Champions of the following Conferences;
Blue Hen, Henlopen and Independent.
2. At-large teams depending on how many Conference Champions qualify, the number needed to reach 16.
B. Conferences will determine their Champion using their established criteria. A Conference Champions MUST be determined by May 11, 2013
C. The remaining (13) thirteen at-large teams will be selected according to the following procedures:
1. Teams in contention for an at-large berth will receive 2 points for each win and 0 points for each loss played during the regular season. In addition, 1 bonus point will be awarded for each opponent with a regular season win/loss record of .501 or better. An additional bonus point will be awarded for each opponent with a regular season win/loss record of .701 or better.
2. Each team's point index will be determined by dividing the total points earned by the number of varsity games played.
3. The NUMBER OF teams with the highest point indices NEEDED TO REACH A 16 TEAM FIELD, excluding the teams that received guaranteed berths, will be the at-large selections.
4. If two or more teams are tied with the same point index, the Committee will use the following tie breaking criteria:
a. Head-to-head competition. If three or more teams are tied, the teams must have all played each other.
b. Win/loss percentage against common opponents during the regular season.
c. Win/loss percentage of opponents during the regular season.
d. If a tie still exist the Committee will choose by vote.
D. In the case of a tie for a conference berth and the conference does not have a method for determining its representative; the Committee will use the following tie-breaking procedures listed in Item 1.B.4.
E. A team must play a minimum of 12 games at the varsity level in order to be considered for the tournament. A game will count as a varsity contest only if the opposing team has played at least 10 games against varsity opponents, these games must be the played during that opponent's regular season games, post-season games will not be considered. Only the first 15 regular season games of your opponent will count for seeding purposes. The regular season ends on May 11, 2013.
F. The last date that teams can play contests eligible for tournament consideration is Saturday May 11, 2013. All results must be called in to Bob Schweitzer by this date.
Item 2. Tournament Seeding
A. After the tournament field has been selected, all 12 teams will be seeded according to the point index system described in B.1. and B. 2. above. The team with the highest point index will be seeded #1, next highest #2, etc. The four teams with the highest point indices will receive a bye in the first round.
B. If two or more teams are tied with the same point index, the Committee will use the following tie breakers:
1. Head-to-head competition. If three or more teams are tied, the teams must have all played each other.
2. Win/loss percentage against common opponents during the regular season.
3. Win/loss percentage of opponents during the regular season.
Item 1. Tournament Field
A. The tournament field will be comprised of the following 16 teams:
1. The Champions of the following Conferences;
Blue Hen, Henlopen and Independent.
2. At-large teams depending on how many Conference Champions qualify, the number needed to reach 16.
B. Conferences will determine their Champion using their established criteria. A Conference Champions MUST be determined by May 11, 2013
C. The remaining (13) thirteen at-large teams will be selected according to the following procedures:
1. Teams in contention for an at-large berth will receive 2 points for each win and 0 points for each loss played during the regular season. In addition, 1 bonus point will be awarded for each opponent with a regular season win/loss record of .501 or better. An additional bonus point will be awarded for each opponent with a regular season win/loss record of .701 or better.
2. Each team's point index will be determined by dividing the total points earned by the number of varsity games played.
3. The NUMBER OF teams with the highest point indices NEEDED TO REACH A 16 TEAM FIELD, excluding the teams that received guaranteed berths, will be the at-large selections.
4. If two or more teams are tied with the same point index, the Committee will use the following tie breaking criteria:
a. Head-to-head competition. If three or more teams are tied, the teams must have all played each other.
b. Win/loss percentage against common opponents during the regular season.
c. Win/loss percentage of opponents during the regular season.
d. If a tie still exist the Committee will choose by vote.
D. In the case of a tie for a conference berth and the conference does not have a method for determining its representative; the Committee will use the following tie-breaking procedures listed in Item 1.B.4.
E. A team must play a minimum of 12 games at the varsity level in order to be considered for the tournament. A game will count as a varsity contest only if the opposing team has played at least 10 games against varsity opponents, these games must be the played during that opponent's regular season games, post-season games will not be considered. Only the first 15 regular season games of your opponent will count for seeding purposes. The regular season ends on May 11, 2013.
F. The last date that teams can play contests eligible for tournament consideration is Saturday May 11, 2013. All results must be called in to Bob Schweitzer by this date.
Item 2. Tournament Seeding
A. After the tournament field has been selected, all 12 teams will be seeded according to the point index system described in B.1. and B. 2. above. The team with the highest point index will be seeded #1, next highest #2, etc. The four teams with the highest point indices will receive a bye in the first round.
B. If two or more teams are tied with the same point index, the Committee will use the following tie breakers:
1. Head-to-head competition. If three or more teams are tied, the teams must have all played each other.
2. Win/loss percentage against common opponents during the regular season.
3. Win/loss percentage of opponents during the regular season.
Again the rules for lacrosse have not changed for sometime. It was easier back than because not as many teams as now and it could be just Henlopen and Blue Hen. Now there are enough teams in each that the auto bids should be looked at. Personally I would get rid of the auto bids because usually those teams are pretty good. Minus the Blue Hen teams though. I feel that they are not as strong as the Henlopen and Independent.
I'm a little confused. If I am understanding this right, a team gets 2 points for a win, 1 bonus point if the team they beat finishes above .500, and another bonus point if the team finishes .700 or better. If they lose they get 0 points. So let's take a team like Sussex Tech who finished 6-9 this season. Indian River was the only team they beat that finished the season better than .500. Can someone help explain how they would earn enough points to get in the tourney and get seeded above a team like Concord who had more wins and more wins against teams that finished .500 or better?
