Hearing St. Elizabeth's just bought St Marks.. Also its unsure if St Marks will close or how it pans out if St E's moves there or if they lease it to DMA or how it will shake out.. Hopefully it merges..stay tuned
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Who did they pay and what did they pay them? I can't imagine that school would cost much more than a pack of smokes and a good kick to the nuts, I tell you what
WOW Well those are needed also.. will they have a football team or turn the pit into a goose pond? lol
HAHA... One of the guys at 7v7 last night whom I regard as a solid source but will remain nameless broke the story
If true-TNJ will have the story in next months paper LOL.....
...RR, were you interviewed for said story?? The people demand intel!
Regardless of whether or not there is any truth to this.....a few things that certainly would be related to this, are all fact:
1- Nobody can keep a secret like the Church/Diocese.
2- The administration has to be held accountable.
3- RR has some good sources and has been in front of several stories before.
4- There have been many rumors for over 4 years now. Too many!
Both schools have went out of their way to squash any and all rumors and that makes sense. I think St. Marks is on their 3rd principal in past 5-6 years?? Maybe they need to remove some other parts of the core admin and keep a principal.
1- Nobody can keep a secret like the Church/Diocese.
2- The administration has to be held accountable.
3- RR has some good sources and has been in front of several stories before.
4- There have been many rumors for over 4 years now. Too many!
Both schools have went out of their way to squash any and all rumors and that makes sense. I think St. Marks is on their 3rd principal in past 5-6 years?? Maybe they need to remove some other parts of the core admin and keep a principal.
I don't know is the honest answer. They have a different guy calling the 7on7 offense but they have done that before. I haven't talked to Coach to ask. The other rumored new OC didn't happen
They just fired their AD, second in two years, they have had three principals in the last 5 years too. Can't get coaches and boosters all quit. Sad, with them being the only Catholic HS downstate you would think the would have better enrollment. I agree this may be the last year if things don't turn around.
No argument on #1 & #3. Appears #2 has been addressed and the Principal has hit the ground running. #4 can be explained simply by reading the many posts of babble on theses boards. Some people think they know so much, they can't even figure out they know nothing.
Entertaining though....
Believe me this is one of those stories I hope is bogus. I don't think anyone wants it to be true even the haters.
So, this is not true. St. E's is NOT buying Saint Mark's, nor are they merging.
So I just got around to looking at some of the numbers on this and they are pretty astounding. I'm sure you guys close to St. Mark's may have known this, but their numbers are really bad. The 2012 count had them at 1201 students. The count last year was 657.
Saint E's has actually grown a bit over that same time period going from 349 in 2012 to 384 last year.
When they see numbers like this, the Diocese will not sit still for long. I would suspect a merger is inevitable.
As for Saint Thomas More, they are at 168, down from 220 in 2012. They have been advertising pretty hard on the radio down here, so I suspect this might be a make or break year.
Saint E's has actually grown a bit over that same time period going from 349 in 2012 to 384 last year.
When they see numbers like this, the Diocese will not sit still for long. I would suspect a merger is inevitable.
As for Saint Thomas More, they are at 168, down from 220 in 2012. They have been advertising pretty hard on the radio down here, so I suspect this might be a make or break year.
Merging a Diocese school and Parish school is akin to merging a Charter and Traditional school. It doesn't work. Both schools are viable and successful, except to those who begin sentences with, "I remember when..."
Look over there.... Is that a dead horse???
I respectfully have to disagree. With Saint Mark's losing almost half their enrollment in just three years, there is a big problem. Someone needs to come up with a viable plan real quick, because they must be bleeding money profusely.
St Marks and St E's are both Diocese schools
http://www.cdow.org/catholic-dioces...catholic-schools/school-listing/high-schools/
I agree things have changed a lot over the years. I had friends jump to St. Marks in the "White Flight" of deseg. days. When I taught down state and coached wrestling at Woodbridge, the days of wrestling dominance were unmatched, till C.R. took over, and now Smyrna.
The school is on solid ground. Will the glory days of 1600 kids return? Was it all that great then? Lots of problem then with that many kids. Personally, I think 1000 kids is optimum.
State Championships? They will return especially when DIAA puts in their 3 tiered division plan(not a fan). Competitive in athletics? Yes, just bite the bullet and drop Sallies football. They have one of the hardest field hockey schedules in the state.
If you have time, dig into the test scores and where the kids go on to for college. That's where the value is....
St. E's and Padua are both directly connected and supported by parishioners at the respective churches. Merging Holy Rosary and St. Helena's into Pope ?? was done by the two church parishes. St. Edmonds couldn't go to SMM, or IHM when they were struggling.
The rise of the selective charter/magnet schools have hurt public and now has hurt St. Marks. Why pay when I can go to Wilm Charter, Newark Charter, Conrad, etc
Soccer-
You seem to know the Spartans pretty well, at least that's what I gather. I am hearing they have made some serious changes with regards to #2 (Admin.)
-intel?
-thoughts?
Another thing that has effected St.M is that Bishop Shanahan in Chester County
PA has grown so much after it moved out of West Chester. Stealing back students from Kennet, Avondale, West Grove, etc that used to cross the near by state line.
PA has grown so much after it moved out of West Chester. Stealing back students from Kennet, Avondale, West Grove, etc that used to cross the near by state line.
St Marks never got many kids from Newark Charter. Before NCS had a high school most kids would either go to Wilmington Charter or Newark. Very few to St Marks. The biggest issue with St Marks was the administration. They should have given the principal job to Lemon years ago. Big mistake when they did not. Heard new principal is better. Right or wrong precieved sports politics is an issue too. People talk. Graduation rates have gone from over 400 in 2009 to 368 in 2011 to 229 in 2015 and 195 in 2016.