I know it's a controlled scrimmage but MT'S defense looks legit! Athletes running to the ball everywhere. Not sure these two teams can score!
MT, Cape and Lake
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Neither team did, until they played each other.
Capes got some good size, and A LOT of players.
Lake certainly doesn't have the man power (23 if I counted right) but they got some kids who can run the ball. Two for sure that I saw.
Nothing new from MTs defense, they are by far one of the best in the state. Offense looks solid, line didn't do too bad considering their size disadvantage, but Fry got rid of the ball quick and early, so I guess you don't have to hold your block long for him. Kendrick picked off where he left off last season. Should be interesting next Thursday.
Look out for me, I'll be at the gate trying to sell the tickets, at least to the people who are dumb enough to believe it. $$$$$
Capes got some good size, and A LOT of players.
Lake certainly doesn't have the man power (23 if I counted right) but they got some kids who can run the ball. Two for sure that I saw.
Nothing new from MTs defense, they are by far one of the best in the state. Offense looks solid, line didn't do too bad considering their size disadvantage, but Fry got rid of the ball quick and early, so I guess you don't have to hold your block long for him. Kendrick picked off where he left off last season. Should be interesting next Thursday.
Look out for me, I'll be at the gate trying to sell the tickets, at least to the people who are dumb enough to believe it. $$$$$
Another thing...:isn't it against DIAA rules to be at another teams scrimmage if you're not part of it? Caught some Schools coaches up in the stands. I know you can do whatever during the season, but I'm pretty sure you can't during the offseason....can someone clarify for me?
HS....DIAA changed that years ago......maybe it was the early 2000's....at one time it was strictly forbidden. If I am not mistake you can even video a scrimmage.
CA vs Howard... Howard is better than I thought they were.. They have a QB who is decent that I didn't see in 7v7 They have a RB #2 who is good and #18 DE/TE/WR who is a problem .. CA had their way with their play makers but Howard is def a top 8 team in D2
I said it before and I'll say it again, ECAravel will be good with those playmakers (see: ECA transfers). I wonder if their programs will say Eastern Christian Ravel Academy or just ECAravel
I agree my main mang. Could you imagine how good Middletown could have been had their coach grovelled at the feet of the former ECA, current ECAravel players in order to get them to go there? They'll still win it all but mang they would have been gūd
Cowtown - bigtru is correct. The Cavs have at least one ECA transfer for Sure. There might be another one.
There's also a transfer from Arizona
There's also a transfer from Arizona
Got a chance to stop by and see Caravel today. They looked like a pretty good D2 team and playoff contender. They can make me a believer once I see them scrimmage William Penn and play their first game against Concord. I'm not taking anything away from them or the competition that they have played so far, but Glasgow and Howard are definitely not William Penn or Concord.
On my way home, I briefly stopped by the Tatnall, St. Es and Concord scrimmage today also. Tatnall looks pretty good. When the number 1s were in the game, neither were in the same league as Concord. As I was walking in, Tatnall did score a nice run against Concords starters on a long run. St. Es didn't score on Concord, but they did 1 time against St. Es. St. Es also score 1 time on Tatnall. Don't be surprised if you see Tatnall slide into the rankings and maybe even the playoffs.
I couldnt get a real look at Concord and who the true starters were, because they had so many players, they kept rotating kids in. I guess the staff were giving players and opportunity to prove themselves. Concord has the usual suspects we expect to perform, but I believe the X factor for them this year is their offensive and defensive line. They were BIG, fast, and aggressive even when they were rotating players in.
On my way home, I briefly stopped by the Tatnall, St. Es and Concord scrimmage today also. Tatnall looks pretty good. When the number 1s were in the game, neither were in the same league as Concord. As I was walking in, Tatnall did score a nice run against Concords starters on a long run. St. Es didn't score on Concord, but they did 1 time against St. Es. St. Es also score 1 time on Tatnall. Don't be surprised if you see Tatnall slide into the rankings and maybe even the playoffs.
I couldnt get a real look at Concord and who the true starters were, because they had so many players, they kept rotating kids in. I guess the staff were giving players and opportunity to prove themselves. Concord has the usual suspects we expect to perform, but I believe the X factor for them this year is their offensive and defensive line. They were BIG, fast, and aggressive even when they were rotating players in.
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Tatnall was the best team in the tri-scrimmage last night. Won't necessarily be the same story in-season, but for one night it certainly was.
Smackjack I know I counted 23-24, there may be some kids who didn't make the trip, but even still, there's not going to be much rotating this year for them.
The kid from Arizona is a player... He was looking at CA as well.. I believe MT put his Dad on the coaching staff
You are correct RR. Rumor has it that he was the DC at the University of Delaware before taking a job at the University of Arizona. He was very active during the scrimmage, telling kids where to go and what to do.
Maybe it's the old school in me but I like when a coach barks on his players when they screw up. He showed a little of that last night. If it's all true, MT got lucky with the addition of him.
Maybe it's the old school in me but I like when a coach barks on his players when they screw up. He showed a little of that last night. If it's all true, MT got lucky with the addition of him.
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Its true... he is coming from a school with 3800 kids.. Dad was concerned CA's 380 wasn't enough lol .. That and the whole D1 D2 thing
First don't be a hater because the kids chose Caravel. Second don't count the title before you have it. Mtown is a great program, more due to population trends then any thing else, but there are 4 or 5 teams that could take the title in D1 this year.
"More due to population trends then anything else?"
First of all- you should have used "than" instead of then.
Second- what? Middletown has been a top team for a long time, before the population blew up. And I could argue the population growth has hurt because it's split up the talent to three schools, all of which have been competitive, as opposed to everything going to MHS. It's the culture there that leads to the wins.
I'm sure the ECA players are doing a lot to bring some of their winning culture to ECAravel so hopefully that happens and in a decade we can talk about how we watched ECAravel grow and become a winner.
I agree. MOT had been a power school for the last 20 or so years. They ruled D2 in the late 90s and had a string of dominance in the 2000s. Great program regardless of influx of students and growth in the area.
Middletown stood toe to toe with Sallies, Newark and the other big programs in the 60's & 70's and I think their enrollment then was in the 300-400 range
The pop warner program ruled the scene for DECADES. They always had a great team. I truly believe pop warner program has had a great impact on the success of MOT football.
Just out of curiosity how long has the MOT rec program been around?. They do a good job as a feeder for MT
I've had a children/grandchildren envolved since 1987 continuously. It hasn't always looked how it does today. I still have the callouses from installing more than 3000 feet of silt fence. Mumford and Miller brought in the heavy equipment, BlackRob ran the volunteer crew (into the ground), it was really grassroots.
Back in the day, when you made a team, it was almost like travel ball. You would travel to Maryland and PA. And NJ sometimes as far south as Virginia I believe and play the better feeder programs out of those states, but after a while it turned into more demand for kids, too expensive for traveling so now it's just the local kids playing against each other, which is fine and dandy, but I'd much rather go out of states and play the best out there.
Same for scrimmages and games. I know games are rather limited, but personally I would have dropped the cape and lake scrimmage for one against say downingtown, or say New Jersey and don bosco ) I think their jersey).... It's only a scrimmage so play the better teams and get a feel where you stand
Same for scrimmages and games. I know games are rather limited, but personally I would have dropped the cape and lake scrimmage for one against say downingtown, or say New Jersey and don bosco ) I think their jersey).... It's only a scrimmage so play the better teams and get a feel where you stand
So, I just got back from dropping off grandson #1 at the MOT fields.
Where was I, oh ya.
Back in those days we had the helmets with feet doing a six inch power step w/punch blocking while the "General" BDN was still using a version of the chicken wing at the HS level. I don't care, it was funny as hell.
Look, by the time the young men entered HS they were locked and cocked, the system works, always has always will. Why? Because the community has skin in the game. We have generations of families envolved, period.
Where was I, oh ya.
Back in those days we had the helmets with feet doing a six inch power step w/punch blocking while the "General" BDN was still using a version of the chicken wing at the HS level. I don't care, it was funny as hell.
Look, by the time the young men entered HS they were locked and cocked, the system works, always has always will. Why? Because the community has skin in the game. We have generations of families envolved, period.
For most of my sons rec years I remember MOT in the Harford/Baltimore County league... Fond memories of traveling to Middletown to play from Fallston.. MOT always had quality teams..made some championships as well.. don't think they ever won one as its hard to beat those Baltimore CO recruited up stacked teams in those days,,
I remember always eating at the Grottos in Mtown when they had one(I think its a Mexican joint now) Also when my son played 12U eating at my first BDubs in Mtowne when they got one..
When that league split the smartest thing MOT did was go to age only ball and drop the weight limit/older but lighter nonsense. It went a long way in developing kids in their correct positions for high school
I remember always eating at the Grottos in Mtown when they had one(I think its a Mexican joint now) Also when my son played 12U eating at my first BDubs in Mtowne when they got one..
When that league split the smartest thing MOT did was go to age only ball and drop the weight limit/older but lighter nonsense. It went a long way in developing kids in their correct positions for high school
Great Vision the people of MOT have. It takes a vision, heard work and dedication. One of my fondest memories was finally beating MOT in pop warner.
When we made the jump from PW (there just was no competition left in the state) to HBC we took the Ship from MiddleRiver 3 years in a row, the were pissed. We thumped BelAir every year, walked all over the Gators, felt like we played at a local playground, Parkville was always a good win for us, the most fun was pounding Perry Hall at the time the president of the league was their guy. Winning the ship was pretty easy when your running back was Sam Cotton who was running behind the Bryant brothers who both went on and played for Harvard and afterward Dezy signed with the Browns for 30M. Then his famous mugshot. lol.
Sam Cotton was a BEAST lol. Brandon Brown, ullyes Todd, Elias Brothers man them boys could play.
HS.....no DE team wants to scrimmage Don Bosco- not on the same level.....not close.
Even the Cavs best team ever would get their butt's whooped. Don't take that personally-but sometimes you just have no clue what you are talking about- a good example is not knowing who the Big kid from Sals was....C'mon man- that's the Cavs main rivalry and you never heard of him????
Newark was the bomb in late 80's and 90's.
The Christiana and Glasgow had a short run/
Middletown was great in the 60/70 but really blew back up in the mid 90's
Now Smyrna?
You see a trend there? Population shifting south to Bear, Middletown and now Odessa / Smyrna. Your kidding yourself if you think population trends don't impact which teams are on top - the more kids the more potential players, etc.
Now the comment on there youth program is spot on - it kicks ass and has for a while. So I guess you could say it is a perfect storm of sorts.
But I am talking 20 year cycles here not last 5 years.
The Christiana and Glasgow had a short run/
Middletown was great in the 60/70 but really blew back up in the mid 90's
Now Smyrna?
You see a trend there? Population shifting south to Bear, Middletown and now Odessa / Smyrna. Your kidding yourself if you think population trends don't impact which teams are on top - the more kids the more potential players, etc.
Now the comment on there youth program is spot on - it kicks ass and has for a while. So I guess you could say it is a perfect storm of sorts.
But I am talking 20 year cycles here not last 5 years.
Thank you for the spelling education.
Second MTown has 7 titles since 1975 Caravel has 4. Not as much but hey not bad for team that started playing in 80's.
Now think your comment on population is valid with new schools coming in like STG and Appo taking some players. You think that a new school in Odessa would impact Smyrna? Heard rumors of another HS down there.
Well I'm sorry jawnsky....that I don't know every name on the sallies roster....last I checked I was a Middletown fan. Not a sals.
You're also taking my scrimmage bosco statement too literal, if you read between the lines....you'd notice I was using them as examples, I don't know what schools are in those states, but I'm sure they're better than what Middletown scrimmaged last Friday. Which is what I was trying to say......scrimmage better teams, schedule better teams, we're all tired of blow outs, I am too, I would give everything to replace charter and Delcastle on the schedule with someone relevant . No offense to those schools but they shouldn't be division 1. We can all agree that. But like I said in the first post, the schedule is the way it is, we have to play and scrimmage these teams.
You're also taking my scrimmage bosco statement too literal, if you read between the lines....you'd notice I was using them as examples, I don't know what schools are in those states, but I'm sure they're better than what Middletown scrimmaged last Friday. Which is what I was trying to say......scrimmage better teams, schedule better teams, we're all tired of blow outs, I am too, I would give everything to replace charter and Delcastle on the schedule with someone relevant . No offense to those schools but they shouldn't be division 1. We can all agree that. But like I said in the first post, the schedule is the way it is, we have to play and scrimmage these teams.
No reason to scrimmage Lake Forest. You get nothing out of that. Cape has talent and has always had talent so I get it.
Agreed schools like MTown, WP, Sallies, Smyrna, etc are just a cut above right now and beating the lower end of D1 does nothing for the fans, players, etc. I have been on both sides of those beatings and they suck. Would love to see all of those schools playing 2-3 teams from NJ/MD/PA, etc that are good football schools.
