Remember when.....

[vertical stripes]

Remember when you could actually engage in some good decent football talk on this forum? The Salesianum and the Delmar faithful pretty much dominated the board from an upstate downstate perspective, but we talked football. No bashing of individual posters, no bashing of student athletes and questioning coaches and their decisions and what was deemed as questionable calls by the officials was mostly done in a respectful manner. Sometimes officials would come on and help with rules interpretations and offer a different perspective to think about and discuss. Where has it gone? Seems like now we call out individuals, call out their kids if they play for an opposing team, accuse officials of outright bias against certain teams and air our personal vendettas against some coaches under the guise of anonymity. Welcome to Football Facebook.

This post was edited on 11/24 7:04 AM by vertical stripes

 

[Mobhits]

I have to agree with you V/S, this years post have been dominated by negativity, seems like since SALs, SM, Caravel, are out not much noise now, maybe the final week can end on some positive comments for all the players
that had an impact in 2014 season that was filled with a lot of great MOMENTS! Just a neutral HS football Fan here!

 

[spartakos]

come on Vert..you know some refs are horrible...
every sport has them....
especially in De...everyone is related or knows someone's brother or dad or uncle...

 

[Busch08]

Here's one that could draw up some discussion, but does have to do with a coach. No "personal vendetta" on my end just curious what people have to say.

Coach Dooley has guided the Colonial to an impressive 11-0 mark and in his first year in 2013 the finished 7-4. A nice turn around for a WP program who has been average lately. Will he be able to to continue this success in 2015 or is this years talent just that TALENTED?

Avon Grove fell off the face of the map since 2009 when Dooley guided them to an 11-2 mark, then going 3-7 and 2-8 before leaving.

Is the parent/community support revitalized for the future? Are WP kids going to stay at WP?

Is this going to spark a "remember when..." discussion? Who knows!

Cheers,

Busch

 

[BlueTea]

Vert.....

I have posted very little this season for the reasons you mention. About a month ago, I simply stopped completely.

I invented the "funny poll" on depreps a few years ago and we did poke fun at some people, but it was almost always someone who enjoyed the attention and could take some good natured ribbing. Now the negativity is real and far too frequent in my opinion.

 

[oldtimer22]

Originally posted by Mobhits:
I have to agree with you V/S, this years post have been dominated by negativity, seems like since SALs, SM, Caravel, are out not much noise now, maybe the final week can end on some positive comments for all the players
that had an impact in 2014 season that was filled with a lot of great MOMENTS! Just a neutral HS football Fan here!

So you are saying it is Sallies, SM and Caravel fans? So neutral you just named 3 private schools. Get a grip.

 

[nuk59]

Good stuff vert. Wondered why you haven't been on the board much this year. As my son's high school career ends this weekend, I wonder how much I will be back at this site because of the negativity.

 

[ravensrooster2]

Some of the old timers will be glad to learn RR2/Rockchalk whatever will be closing the chapter on HS football will ride off into the sunset.. Hence ending my involvment in this forum as well as two others.. My time has come to move on and find something more productive to do with my spare time... its been a fun ride though... Blue Tea your the best... so I will be leaving you with Jawnsky and Spartakos to run things.. peace out... RR2's/HarcoHorns execution date is Dec. 31st 2015








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[Mobhits]

Old Timer / Not saying that at all, just stating that IMO the root of negativity has been directed towards those programs! Not that your the root of it!
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[ravensrooster2]

Originally posted by Mobhits:

Not saying that at all, just stating that IMO the root of negativity has been directed towards those programs! Not that your the root of it!




I didn't take it that way.. I just have wasted too much valuable time on the HS forums and have another son that is not into sports that needs my attention and other things I need to be doing with my spare time.. like focusing on colleges for my eldest etc... I'll be deleting my account here but I am sure I will lurk in from time to time I just won't be participating in the discussions..

ohh nevermind you were responding to someone else..

This post was edited on 11/24 10:29 AM by ravensrooster2

 

[vertical stripes]

Sparty you are correct. Usually it's easy to tell the official who spends time in his rule book and trying to master his craft in comparison to others. And there are times, when really good officials can just have a bad day.The emphasis of my post really wasn't official related that was kind of a side bar if you will. The board has just seemingly taking on a very mean and rude undertone that's all I'm saying. It seems we have become more interested in dramas, name calling and pictures than talking football. Hence my reference to Facebook. Nuk, thank you for noticing about my low activity this season. I missed the season on field due to surgery. I did manage to do a couple clocks early on. At this point I'm anticipating a return next fall, but if not I really do want to find a radio gig because I feel I could bring a different perspective to a broadcast. RR this was not directed at you and please do not take it that way, I just think as a whole we've taken a step backwards. Happy Thanksgiving everybody and I am still thankful for Depreps.

 

[ravensrooster2]

Originally posted by vertical stripes:
Sparty you are correct. Usually it's easy to tell the official who spends time in his rule book and trying to master his craft in comparison to others. And there are times, when really good officials can just have a bad day.The emphasis of my post really wasn't official related that was kind of a side bar if you will. The board has just seemingly taking on a very mean and rude undertone that's all I'm saying. It seems we have become more interested in dramas, name calling and pictures than talking football. Hence my reference to Facebook. Nuk, thank you for noticing about my low activity this season. I missed the season on field due to surgery. I did manage to do a couple clocks early on. At this point I'm anticipating a return next fall, but if not I really do want to find a radio gig because I feel I could bring a different perspective to a broadcast. RR this was not directed at you and please do not take it that way, I just think as a whole we've taken a step backwards. Happy Thanksgiving everybody and I am still thankful for Depreps.

I didn't vert..ironically.. part of me is considering sporting the Verticle Stripes as a use of some of my spare time and for some spare cash in my DePreps retirement...

 

[gridknowledge]

Vert .. I cannot agree with you more. It's so disheartening to see kids discredited and coaches blasted because of a bad game. Need they be reminded, they are humans that sometimes have bad days. The same kinds that are being ridiculed about their performance may have read the same post that we, as adults read as well. Not only that, the same adults that play Monday morning quarterback will criticize officials about how terrible they are and I take offense to that, being an official myself. Finger pointing is so quick to happen, but yet some people won't take "the leap of faith" and see game from our point of view. I still believe the best games played will consist of players, coaches and officials only. If that were to happen, maybe certain people would change their way of thinking and be more mindful. Just my opinion.

 

[masterblaster66]

Vert well said! It drives me nuts when people start threads or post replies just to instigate ill will between fan bases. Its happening on this forum currently in two separate threads. My general rule of thumb is if you read post and your first thought is this guys is an idiot, look over to see how many times they posted… that should tell you everything you need to know. I have enjoyed this forum, the Friday night updates and insight on games, but this years there has been a lot of venom spewed every week and its getting old.

 

[nuk59]

Originally posted by ravensrooster2:

Originally posted by vertical stripes:
Sparty you are correct. Usually it's easy to tell the official who spends time in his rule book and trying to master his craft in comparison to others. And there are times, when really good officials can just have a bad day.The emphasis of my post really wasn't official related that was kind of a side bar if you will. The board has just seemingly taking on a very mean and rude undertone that's all I'm saying. It seems we have become more interested in dramas, name calling and pictures than talking football. Hence my reference to Facebook. Nuk, thank you for noticing about my low activity this season. I missed the season on field due to surgery. I did manage to do a couple clocks early on. At this point I'm anticipating a return next fall, but if not I really do want to find a radio gig because I feel I could bring a different perspective to a broadcast. RR this was not directed at you and please do not take it that way, I just think as a whole we've taken a step backwards. Happy Thanksgiving everybody and I am still thankful for Depreps.

I didn't vert..ironically.. part of me is considering sporting the Verticle Stripes as a use of some of my spare time and for some spare cash in my DePreps retirement...

@rr2

Unbelievable because I have had the same thought. Can you imagine a crew with rr2, nuk and vert throwing the flags? God help high school football in our state!!!

 

[ravensrooster2]

Originally posted by nuk59:

Originally posted by ravensrooster2:

Originally posted by vertical stripes:
Sparty you are correct. Usually it's easy to tell the official who spends time in his rule book and trying to master his craft in comparison to others. And there are times, when really good officials can just have a bad day.The emphasis of my post really wasn't official related that was kind of a side bar if you will. The board has just seemingly taking on a very mean and rude undertone that's all I'm saying. It seems we have become more interested in dramas, name calling and pictures than talking football. Hence my reference to Facebook. Nuk, thank you for noticing about my low activity this season. I missed the season on field due to surgery. I did manage to do a couple clocks early on. At this point I'm anticipating a return next fall, but if not I really do want to find a radio gig because I feel I could bring a different perspective to a broadcast. RR this was not directed at you and please do not take it that way, I just think as a whole we've taken a step backwards. Happy Thanksgiving everybody and I am still thankful for Depreps.

I didn't vert..ironically.. part of me is considering sporting the Verticle Stripes as a use of some of my spare time and for some spare cash in my DePreps retirement...

@rr2

Unbelievable because I have had the same thought. Can you imagine a crew with rr2, nuk and vert throwing the flags? God help high school football in our state!!!

HAHA I can hear the Booos now..

 

[shooter15]

Thanks Vert, well put together post. Can't grown people just enjoy these young kids playing with passion and giving their all!!!! Forget about who is on the schedule, officials calls, fans in the stands who in the media picked who. Enjoy what the kids and coaches have done and stop living your lives through the kids. There are people who watch football and people who know football. The people who know football have left this site

 

[sportn2011]

@vert...did you get hurt in the line of duty ?

 

[Mobhits]

Shooter 15, I'm not sure that your statement "that all that know football have left "is fair, I have been a long time listener and first time caller up till this year. I feel your frustration about the relevant topics as it pertains to high school football, first and foremost , we as posters need to consider what is being put out here carefully, the student/athletes and their families that follow this forum have sacrificed countless hours practicing, playing and supporting these programs through out this state. I think as a fan, player, coach, admin, or parent we should try to be as supportive to these young men & women as possible regardless of what program they play it! IMHO

 

[vertical stripes]

Sport....no...we did lose a guy for the season who got rolled hard in a scrimmage this year. We actually lost five of us total due to various reasons. Ironically based on the old 5 man crews it went right by position. All five tournament quality officials.

RR/NUK......I got this crew thing figured out....I'll take the white hat. I want Nuk in the hole (and he knows why...lol) RR you take the chains, Chesdel at linejudge. I'm just not sure about our deep man yet, I got a couple of mind, but I'm open to suggestions.

 

[spartakos]

@ VS

let me be the deep guy....

just saying

 

[IncognitoFanDE]

Vert, I've been mostly a lurker on this forum, but I agree that there has been more snarky comments this year. While I would never throw an attack at a player or coach, I have to say that the officiating has been questionable, at best. When flagrant fouls happen directly in front of an official and the guy's arm doesn't even flinch toward the flag, I stop short of making an accusation of bias, but I am comfortable using words like incompetence and timidity. It's not so much that flags are thrown when they shouldn't be, but that they aren't thrown when they should be.

I know it's "just" high school football, but these kids work hard, some of them year round. When a game, and maybe a playoff spot, is turned on a ref's call or non-call, people get upset. I know there is no solution that can be discovered in a forum, but coming here to vent is considerably healthier than seeking out a ref after a game. That all being said, I appreciate all those who willingly put themselves under such scrutiny.

 

[nuk59]

Originally posted by vertical stripes:
Sport....no...we did lose a guy for the season who got rolled hard in a scrimmage this year. We actually lost five of us total due to various reasons. Ironically based on the old 5 man crews it went right by position. All five tournament quality officials.

RR/NUK......I got this crew thing figured out....I'll take the white hat. I want Nuk in the hole (and he knows why...lol) RR you take the chains, Chesdel at linejudge. I'm just not sure about our deep man yet, I got a couple of mind, but I'm open to suggestions.

No way on my assignment. I've seen first hand what happens to those guys in the hole thanks to vert and the nuk.lol I'll take the deep and just keep back pedaling. haha

 

[Mylocalview]

Football, I thought this was a restaurant guide

 

[Chesdel]

mlv, I am OK with a restaurant review if it is related to getting something to eat before or after a football game.

Originally posted by Mylocalview:

Football, I thought this was a restaurant guide

 

[sportn2011]

@vert...I was at that scrimmage and happen to be watching the ref "in the hole" when he went down..I even posted my concern on here because it looked so bad...that guy was one of my favorite refs..I worked the chains a few times with him...I hope he is fully recovered and still wants to put his body on the line for next season and beyond

 

[BlueTea]

Originally posted by Mylocalview:

Football, I thought this was a restaurant guide

I get your point MLV. I probably went to the well too much with my reviews and took a few verbal shots at you. some shots at you. Sorry about that.

The review thing started before you were on depreps. Legendary Downstatecredit recommended a place in Gerogetown after a scrimmage a few years ago and I jokingly said I'd do a review.....and so it started. There are a few people who actually wanted to know places to eat when traveling to games. Maybe not so anymore.

 

[vertical stripes]

Tea, the restaurant reviews a lot of similar conversations such as those promoted good will and friendship among the posters. I recall a night after the annual downstate scrimmage that I stayed an hour after the officials left and just enjoyed good conversation with you guys. It was never my intention to claim that we should abandon anything that didn't pertain to football. Some have chosen to interpret it that way. I was more concerned about the personal nature many posts were taking with negative if not down right nasty undertones. I stand by my original intent.

Sport, he has every intention of being back next season. He is one of our finest. I'm not sure if he's had his surgery yet or not, I kind of got wrapped up in my own issues.

Incognito, I hear you and I understand. I never minded the venting, that's why I always tried to help with rules interpretations. Sometimes it was helpful, sometimes it left us more confused. I always said from an officials perspective you don't see two schools or two towns, you simply see two colored jerseys and instinct takes over. In many aspects of life with this being no different, some peoples instincts are better than others. Only 1 percent of players ever play beyond the high school level. Friday night is most kids Superbowl. They deserve our best.

 

[BlueTea]

I remember that day Vert. We also made some other friends from Laurel and Georgetown. Uncle Angelo was pretty happy to find folks who remembered Punk Calloway and Marvel's Harrware store.

I believe many people did not care one way or the other about my food reviews but I probably was kind of mean to MyLocalview at times.....sorry MLV. That is not to say I will not do more reviews in the future......sorry MLV.

 

[Mylocalview]

Well Blue Thank You. If you do reviews label them as places to eat. So I won't jump in and take up time looking for something about a game, team or player. Just my local view

 

[Jawnsky]

Originally posted by BlueTea:
Vert.....

I have posted very little this season for the reasons you mention. About a month ago, I simply stopped completely.

I invented the "funny poll" on depreps a few years ago and we did poke fun at some people, but it was almost always someone who enjoyed the attention and could take some good natured ribbing. Now the negativity is real and far too frequent in my opinion.

Just for you BT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTA2buWlNyM

 

[BlackDoug$]

Dis fo rum jus b fine wif out sums dem crakazz

 

[greyghost86]

Wow, this has been an interesting read. I pretty much gave up posting on the site after week two when it seemed as if it wasn't negative it had absolutely nothing to do with football. I have just scanned it since and moved on.

I've been on and off the board for over 8 years, 6 as Greyghost, and I totally agree with Vert that this has been one of the more negative season on this board with the one exception of when Red Lion's football program was destroyed by Daddy Sills. That was just sad to watch.

It has turned into what picture can be posted that can draw the most disgust. Most of the threads get taken over with picture swapping and nothing about football (damn I am starting to agree with Mylocalview...scary) and that is a shame. I know in the past it was always interesting to see the new folks join in the early season as their sons started playing at whatever school. Some added good stuff, and some were so much homers they couldn't see the forest through the trees, but they were fun to watch, then totally disappear after the player graduated.

Oh well, life goes on and I know I probably will check things out every so often, just a lot more time in between.

Now onto basketball season!!!

 

[Jawnsky]

Vert- I do remember when things were different, but that was not always a good thing either.Unfortunately there were regular posters who were of the belief that this was "their own little playground" or "their schools personal chat room". In that sense it sucked because people would post their opinion and get chased away because of what I would call bullies. I use that term lightly but for example- if someone posted anything about Salesianum, they would be attacked and chased off, like the TH LAX situation on that forum...what a mess that was. As a Big S/Private supporter I have always tried to take what others added to the forum and respect it.

Sometimes Change is Good.....will miss RR though. He kinda helped put an end to some of that non-sense.

 

[vertical stripes]

Greyghost good to hear from you...good luck with BB season...

Jawnsky, point well take, maybe next year we find the balance.

 

[greyghost86]

Thanks Vert, hope you have a great Holiday Season!!! I am soooooo ready for basketball to get here and get back out onto the court!!!!

Jawnsky, while I agree sometimes change is good, but when the change is taking over good threads over and over and over again to post pictures (and believe me, I have a good sense of humor but it got way out of hand) it time for me to move on and I have had no knife in the fight for a few years but just love high school football. This was the first season in 10 years I only went to three games during the season. I am not saying this forum caused that decline, but I will say in the past I would get on here to see what games would have to best interest or what was a must see player. Oh well, life moves on........

 

[7nonstop3]

Some of the old timers will be glad to learn RR2/Rockchalk whatever will be closing the chapter on HS football will ride off into the sunset.. Hence ending my involvment in this forum as well as two others.. My time has come to move on and find something more productive to do with my spare time... its been a fun ride though... Blue Tea your the best... so I will be leaving you with Jawnsky and Spartakos to run things.. peace out... RR2's/HarcoHorns execution date is Dec. 31st 2015


Yet your still here








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[7nonstop3]

Remember when you could actually engage in some good decent football talk on this forum? The Salesianum and the Delmar faithful pretty much dominated the board from an upstate downstate perspective, but we talked football. No bashing of individual posters, no bashing of student athletes and questioning coaches and their decisions and what was deemed as questionable calls by the officials was mostly done in a respectful manner. Sometimes officials would come on and help with rules interpretations and offer a different perspective to think about and discuss. Where has it gone? Seems like now we call out individuals, call out their kids if they play for an opposing team, accuse officials of outright bias against certain teams and air our personal vendettas against some coaches under the guise of anonymity. Welcome to Football Facebook.

This post was edited on 11/24 7:04 AM by vertical stripes

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