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A couple good ones tonight. I assume they will be game like scrims

*5pm WPenn @ Smyrna
*5pm St Georges @ Woodbridge
*6pm Sallies @ Central
6pm Concord @ St Marks
6pm IR @ Tech

Friday

*10am Howard @ Archmere
11am AI @ Tatnall
*Noon DMA @ Cape
Noon Laurel @ Delcastle
3:30pm Red Lion @ Friends
*6pm Appo @ Caravel
6:30pm Mt P @ dover
 
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For starters let me say I'm trying to look at this as a spectator rather than a Middletown fan.

So my biggest takeaways.....

I left at halftime when they took the starters out, it was 20-7

My assumption on William Penn struggling this year was only strengthened after seeing the amount of miscues I saw tonight.

The Penn defense was supposed to be playing Cover 2 the entire game but they couldn't grasp it and left receivers open on numerous of snaps.

The size of Penn is well short of the average size they have had in the past.

They are a young team, not many seniors and will only get better as the season goes on. I don't see them being in the games when they face off against Merganthaler, middletown, Sallies, or Hodgson.

Smyrna still has the size advantage than any team I believe they will face.

I focused on the QB seeing how it all starts with him. His instincts in the pocket was great, he knew when to step out and get rid of it. (Key to this game, some kids don't know that) however he lofts his balls too much and let's the defense know exactly where he's throwing it.

For some reason Wormley was injured(?) looked to be on the sideline with his knee taped up. Didn't look serious as he was standing on his own and walking. Wish he's healthy for the season.

Receivers ran great routes, but they seemed to be waiting on the balls to get to them because of the loft balls. That will changes the season goes on though. Marks and company will work on that like they did with Wilson.

The Earthquake failed on the two 2pt conversion they attempted.

Smyrna Kicker was kicking 50 yard field goals? Excuse me?

WHALEY IS NO WILL KNIGHT. Idc what anyone says or hopes, but he will not do what Knight did, and once he and the coaches realize that the better Whaley will be. Great player but let him play to his strengths.

I doubted it for years because it's all I heard, but Knights younger brother (wore 25, mad respect) I believe could be everything Will was and maybe more. He showed flashes of it in his running ability. Shook off tackles, hard to bring down. Took Penns entire defense at one point. He's going to be special to watch these 4 years.

So with all that said, it was hard gauged because I think penn struggled so much it was hard to tell how good Smyrna is. They are good, but it was one of those scrimmages where you can't really take much from because of all the variables .
 
HSftballlaxFan said:
For starters let me say I'm trying to look at this as a spectator rather than a Middletown fan.

So my biggest takeaways.....

I left at halftime when they took the starters out, it was 20-7

My assumption on William Penn struggling this year was only strengthened after seeing the amount of miscues I saw tonight.

The Penn defense was supposed to be playing Cover 2 the entire game but they couldn't grasp it and left receivers open on numerous of snaps.

The size of Penn is well short of the average size they have had in the past.

They are a young team, not many seniors and will only get better as the season goes on. I don't see them being in the games when they face off against Merganthaler, middletown, Sallies, or Hodgson.

Smyrna still has the size advantage than any team I believe they will face.

I focused on the QB seeing how it all starts with him. His instincts in the pocket was great, he knew when to step out and get rid of it. (Key to this game, some kids don't know that) however he lofts his balls too much and let's the defense know exactly where he's throwing it.

For some reason Wormley was injured(?) looked to be on the sideline with his knee taped up. Didn't look serious as he was standing on his own and walking. Wish he's healthy for the season.

Receivers ran great routes, but they seemed to be waiting on the balls to get to them because of the loft balls. That will changes the season goes on though. Marks and company will work on that like they did with Wilson.

The Earthquake failed on the two 2pt conversion they attempted.

Smyrna Kicker was kicking 50 yard field goals? Excuse me?

WHALEY IS NO WILL KNIGHT. Idc what anyone says or hopes, but he will not do what Knight did, and once he and the coaches realize that the better Whaley will be. Great player but let him play to his strengths.

I doubted it for years because it's all I heard, but Knights younger brother (wore 25, mad respect) I believe could be everything Will was and maybe more. He showed flashes of it in his running ability. Shook off tackles, hard to bring down. Took Penns entire defense at one point. He's going to be special to watch these 4 years.

So with all that said, it was hard gauged because I think penn struggled so much it was hard to tell how good Smyrna is. They are good, but it was one of those scrimmages where you can't really take much from because of all the variables .
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You must be an old fella with untruthful eyes......lol
 
HSftballlaxFan said:
I call them how I see them.

Shed some light on what I missed then swag? Let's see what you did
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I never talk about any specific kid when I post unless it’s positive. With that being said, the only things that you posted that made sense were the following:
1) your outlook on WP for 2018.
2) Knight is no longer at Smyrna
The rest is something you must have dreamed up on that short ride from Smyrna to Middletown.
1) the Earthquake never failed
2) the kicker was making 50+ yard field goals in warmups (did you see his FG attempt during the game?).
3) the backup QB for Smyrna should be the starter
4) Middletown should have their way with Smyrna week 1 as long as Fry and his WRs are healthy.
 
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I never said the earthquake failed. I said the two 2pt conversions failed.

The earthquake did not look as dominant as to what I'm used to seeing..(how about that?) Granted, it was Smyrna first and only scrimmage and I'll be the first to tell you that what you see in a Smyrna scrimmage is never what you see on Gameday. Both teams were still trying out things.

Whaley is a great player, all around great player, running back, receiver, whatever. And I feel like he should be recruited up more tbh. I just have a hunch that everyone is going to put so much pressure on him to be the next Knight, I'm just saying, let Whaley be the kind of player Whaley is, and then him and the Smyrna offense will keep trucking.

And I live in Smyrna, my car ride from the high school to my house is no more than 5 minutes.

I did see the warmup field goal. The in game field goal I feel like was a bad hold and he never got a good kick on it.

I felt like the backup threw the ball better than the starter, but I also feel like the starter runs the offense better.....RIGHT NOW. Again, what I'm saying is not trying to be an insult to either kid. I'm sure they are great kids, and great at football, it's just an observation. No ones perfect and everyone has something to work on.

I won't go out and say Middletown will have their way with Smyrna. I'd be a fool if I said that, but The Cavs lost some talent too you know. I think the game will be a close to what we saw at last years first game in Middletown. Back and forth game coming down to whoever has the ball last.

This season I think Delaware football will be more fun to watch as a whole.

As far as Penn, I'm actually glad you can agree with me. I remember you talking that one kid up and I tried looking for him but the numbers were wrong on the jerseys so I didn't know who he was. If it's the back that brought the 60-50 yard touchdown run, he is everything you said he was.

Other than that one play it seemed like they couldn't move the ball. And on defense, half them didn't know where to line up. Calling out wrong defensive schemes. Again, these are all teachable things and Penn will only get better.
 
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What type of size does the young Knight have? Is he built like his brother (shorter, brick shithouse) or is he taller etc etc?

I heard the youngest one is bad too
 
Wayne Knight and another one Yamir coming up next.. Smyrna is Knighted for the next 8 years lol


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HSftballlaxFan said:
I never said the earthquake failed. I said the two 2pt conversions failed.

The earthquake did not look as dominant as to what I'm used to seeing..(how about that?) Granted, it was Smyrna first and only scrimmage and I'll be the first to tell you that what you see in a Smyrna scrimmage is never what you see on Gameday. Both teams were still trying out things.

Whaley is a great player, all around great player, running back, receiver, whatever. And I feel like he should be recruited up more tbh. I just have a hunch that everyone is going to put so much pressure on him to be the next Knight, I'm just saying, let Whaley be the kind of player Whaley is, and then him and the Smyrna offense will keep trucking.

And I live in Smyrna, my car ride from the high school to my house is no more than 5 minutes.

I did see the warmup field goal. The in game field goal I feel like was a bad hold and he never got a good kick on it.

I felt like the backup threw the ball better than the starter, but I also feel like the starter runs the offense better.....RIGHT NOW. Again, what I'm saying is not trying to be an insult to either kid. I'm sure they are great kids, and great at football, it's just an observation. No ones perfect and everyone has something to work on.

I won't go out and say Middletown will have their way with Smyrna. I'd be a fool if I said that, but The Cavs lost some talent too you know. I think the game will be a close to what we saw at last years first game in Middletown. Back and forth game coming down to whoever has the ball last.

This season I think Delaware football will be more fun to watch as a whole.

As far as Penn, I'm actually glad you can agree with me. I remember you talking that one kid up and I tried looking for him but the numbers were wrong on the jerseys so I didn't know who he was. If it's the back that brought the 60-50 yard touchdown run, he is everything you said he was.

Other than that one play it seemed like they couldn't move the ball. And on defense, half them didn't know where to line up. Calling out wrong defensive schemes. Again, these are all teachable things and Penn will only get better.
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I think that the main issue with Whaley will be that he won't have the same O line that Knight had. No one should think that Whaley is quite up to the high standards that Will set. Will was a once in a generation (or two) type of running back. I do think that he will put up bigger numbers than some think. But no matter how talented you are, you need good blocking. I think that losing 15 or 16 starters will tell in O line and D line play, and defensive backfield. If you try to run behind Sal all night, defensive coaches will make adjustments. The two young QBs will improve over the year. The lofting the ball and visually telegraphing intended receiver by Sanchez will be cleaned up, I'm sure. I like his wheels as well. Wayne is small but sturdy, and I hope he stays healthy. I loved the fact that he wore Will's number 25. If you're not going to retire the number, keep it in the family! Either way, the team you see in December (hopefully) will be much better than the team you see next week. WP has to correct the excessive jumping off sides by the D line. Just can't be successful if that becomes a surefire five yards for the opponent every time they need a first down. I'm still cautiously optimistic about Smyrna. They will make the playoffs and I can remember recent history when even that statement would have gotten you kicked out of the car. :)
 
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Interesting that the Sals journey to G-Town every year to scrimmage. A scrimmage game - yes. A regular season game - nada!
 
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Interesting that the Sals journey to G-Town every year to scrimmage. A scrimmage game - yes. A regular season game - nada!
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dove, like you, I wish the Central and the Sals had a regular season series. They have played a few times but I think it has been at least 20 years. Maybe we should be satisfied with the scrimmage..

Possibly, St. Georges and the Sals will hook up as Coach Wilson does have a good relationship with Salesianum.
 
Sals had just about everyone injured and still beat Sussex. Score was closer then how the game was it looked pretty easy for them
 
That's funny. Because I heard the exact opposite. That Sals had no answer for Central and the Knights were the best team on the field yesterday. And I trust my source given that he's been a Salesian Gent for many years.

Youjustme.....I agree with everything you said. I like the QBs. A month ago I would have said otherwise but seeing them in game like situations if I was a Smyrna fan I would feel a lot better after watching 7on7. I also gree that the team you see next week won't be the team you see in the playoffs. But that's a statement issued to every team to be honest.
 
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That's funny. Because I heard the exact opposite. That Sals had no answer for Central and the Knights were the best team on the field yesterday. And I trust my source given that he's been a Salesian Gent for many years.

Youjustme.....I agree with everything you said. I like the QBs. A month ago I would have said otherwise but seeing them in game like situations if I was a Smyrna fan I would feel a lot better after watching 7on7. I also gree that the team you see next week won't be the team you see in the playoffs. But that's a statement issued to every team to be honest.
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You need a new source then because sals won without their qb for all but first drive and also without wr and 2 defensive starters. Qb rb fb and a couple starting lineman all hurt for most of game and still won.
 
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That's funny. Because I heard the exact opposite. That Sals had no answer for Central and the Knights were the best team on the field yesterday. And I trust my source given that he's been a Salesian Gent for many years.

Youjustme.....I agree with everything you said. I like the QBs. A month ago I would have said otherwise but seeing them in game like situations if I was a Smyrna fan I would feel a lot better after watching 7on7. I also gree that the team you see next week won't be the team you see in the playoffs. But that's a statement issued to every team to be honest.
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It was a "game like scrimmage" and if you kept score it was 28-13, Sals, when the reserves were put in for both teams.
 
I just trust me source, his Intel is usually spot on. Not saying he couldn't have been wrong. Everyone has a. Bad day lol.

If he was wrong then good. A Division 1 playoff without a Salesianum team was just boring. I really only concerned myself with two teams last year, Middletown/Smyrna. I honestly thought Hodgson would have put up a better showing against Smyrna than they did in the Semis, but I think it got too out of hand for them early and they could catch up. Heat of the moment? Idk.

I'm Interested in what Central brings to the table this year. They usually have been a great team but could never beat the powerhouses up north when it mattered. I remember going down to Georgetown year after year for a playoff game.
 
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Overall, I think the Sals O-line is coming together. They are young, but starting to gel and work together as a unit. I think both SC and Sals did well last night.
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Pretty sure they have to replace all 5 starter. I know they had to replace all 5 in 15 when they lost to Smyrna in the chip, and that line was great. Although they had a running back bigger than most defensive linemen...
 
Sals with their numbers are deep at line always and the back ups typically are not far off from the starters. Hell many times the back ups may be better but younger. Sals always values starting the older guys. Point being losing 5 starting lineman is no issue for them they already have the next ones ready to go
 
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Will was a once in a generation (or two) type of running back.
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Not to belittle Knight’s high school football accomplishments (which were impressive), but the above statement needs a reality check. He was not even the best running back on Delmarva last year, let alone the best in two generations. One only needs to compare today’s stats. David Bailey of North Caroline High Denton MD played as a true freshman for D1 Boston College today and had 5 carries for a 5.2 yd avg. with 1 TD. I am not sure Will is even on the travel squad for FCS ODU.
 
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Heard Caravel did not look so good vs Appo
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Very true, my nephew plays for Caravel. I went to check it out and Appo looked faster and stronger then them. Caravel scored on same play as they hit on CR (#40) on a waggle running wideeee open up seam lol
 
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Bucsnot said:
How Caravels QB ( Hoffman) look ?
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Not bad, good for the offense they run. Every time we stepped to throw the ball someone was in his face. But the plays he got outside the pocket he made up for it and kept eyes down field
 
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Your not mistaken. But they will not see a bowl anytime soon. Lol
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RR are you talking about a specific bowl ? ODU finished 1st in Conference USA and played in a bowl game 2 years ago (3rd season of FBS play) last year team was hampered by a lot of injuries.
 
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