Division I
36 Smyrna vs Middletown 28
Division II
28 Delmar vs Milford 14
36 Smyrna vs Middletown 28
Division II
28 Delmar vs Milford 14
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Yes, his wife retired recently. He would be top 5 maybe even top 3 all time, no way he reaches #1 in wins.No way Hearn retires from coaching football, he teaches with his wife and the school loves him. He has it made. He has been coaching for like 35 years I think. and he will get his 5th ring, it would be a great way to go out on top. he would be considered arguably the best D2 coach of all-time. I think he got his 200th win this year also, does that rank in the top 5 of all time?
Hearn won't retire this year. This Delmar team is young. He will have a shot at another State Championship after this season. If Trader keeps developing he may have multiple shots. But he is nearing the end.
Or we can just add "DII or D2" in front of state championship, and thus remove any ambiguity. We can then save the asterisk for Barry Bonds stats!I propose that in the future we include an asterisk anytime we refer to a division 2 state championship. Because yeah it is called a state championship but in reality the team who wins D2 wouldn’t even make the D1 playoffs.
And yeah I also have Delmar winning the state championship* with Smyrna winning the state championship
You do know that Delaware is not the only state to offer multiple state champions. Heck Texas hands out state championships at 12 different divisions in the UIL Association. They have 2 different divisions in TAIAO which looks to be homeschools also getting championships. TAPPS has 8 different divisions, TCAF has 2 divisions, and TCAL has 3 divisions. If my math is correct thats 27 different divisions all crowning a "state champ", 7 of which are "6-man" football.I propose that in the future we include an asterisk anytime we refer to a division 2 state championship. Because yeah it is called a state championship but in reality the team who wins D2 wouldn’t even make the D1 playoffs.
And yeah I also have Delmar winning the state championship* with Smyrna winning the state championship
Well played, 84rider.
Pickle that is just asinine. As 84 said you can't demean them because of their enrollment numbers. Nor can you immortalize a school that obviously get certain kids coming there direction to play a sport.
The Concord team that was praised 2 years ago with Avery Roberts leading the way were just 40 students from being a D2 team. Those dominate Hodgson teams with Ray Jones and the St. George's teams with twins were 30-40 students from being a D1 team while they played. There are many good players in D2 unfortunately due to size they may not have enough quality players to compete at a certain level consistently.
I think Caravel, Delmar, Woodbridge, St. Mark's and even DMA would have made some noise in D1 this season and 2 of them didn't even make the D2 playoffs.
Yeah, I don't know much about St Marks but it's hard to evaluate the team while ignoring the QB. If you look at team performance, the QB play is usually an integral part of their success, and certainly an important factor. That's why I cringe when people say things like "Smyrna would be an average team without Will Knight". Well the truth is that they do have Will Knight so the team has to be evaluated as a complete team and not by some hypothetical supposition.Youjustme.. St. Mark's was a solid team with the size,speed and coaching to compete with every D2 and some D1 teams. The erratic play of the QB a couple of games did them in.
I'm not as impressed by Delmar but I think they should win handily.
I propose that in the future we include an asterisk anytime we refer to a division 2 state championship. Because yeah it is called a state championship but in reality the team who wins D2 wouldn’t even make the D1 playoffs.
And yeah I also have Delmar winning the state championship* with Smyrna winning the state championship
IncorrectPrep... you are so off it’s not even close. Delmar has talent but definitely does not have more next level talented than every other school in DE outside of Middletown and Smyrna. They may get talented kids from MD but the talent they have is not way more than every team in D2 as you say.
Also they don’t platoon. Their best players play both sides of the ball. They are however very disciplined and very well coached.
You guys have had your fair share of bad luck also. Three QBs? Your team is stacked with talent. The other people on this board may not see it, but I can assure you anyone that has a unbiased opinion does.I think Hearn will stick around for a few more years. They have some good young players coming up. He is the AD, teaches drivers ed, and coaches football and baseball. He pretty much gets his way and has a great coaching staff.
Sometimes you need a little luck to win a championship, and it seems as if things are breaking Delmar’s way this year.
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I can tell you with 100 percent certainly they have more talent because I know who is being looked at on all the teams in Both divisions fact . They also platoon in spots, Line, and QB. Trader is one of the best players and only played Defense most of the year. The last QB also could only played ones side of the ball.
I am also interested in who you believe has more. Caravel ? Who are your top 5?
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I can tell you with 100 percent certainly they have more talent because I know who is being looked at on all the teams in Both divisions fact . They also platoon in spots, Line, and QB. Trader is one of the best players and only played Defense most of the year. The last QB also could only played ones side of the ball.
I am also interested in who you believe has more. Caravel ? Who are your top 5?
Top 5 in the state or Division. And we are talking next level talent correct???
Off the top in D2. Caravel, Howard, Woodbridge, Glasgow, Brandywine, St. Mark's has as much next level talent as Delmar and a couple of those I believe have more.
No let me clear this up. Delmar has the better team with Caravel being a question mark and Woodbridge along with I believe Howard able to battle with them.
Bbmvp....I was replying to Prep as we were talking about teams with next level talent which is why I added the last part about being of those Caravel, Woodbridge and Howard being good enough "teams" to compete with Delmar. There is a distinct difference.
Glasgow, Brandywine and St. Marks have some talented kids that if they are trying can play college football. You bringing up the Glasgow vs IR game is a perfect example Glasgow by far had more talent but by 1) playing down and 2) having a couple of injuries and 3) bit of bad luck lost to IR. Another example is Friends with on average at most for various reasons 2-3 next level talented kids but they are a hard working well coached team that is generally right their for the playoffs and competing for a title. Less talent good team. This is HS not college or pros so you can get away with having only 2 or 3 of those kids in Delaware and still be successful especially D2. Every year you will probably find a team with more kids than you realize going on to play college ball but finish around .500 or below.
*Disclaimer* I am not talking about the JV or Freshman team kids that are players or have the potential to grow. I'm talking about the kids that are currently on the field playing varsity ball for these teams.
Voice....if that's the case how in the world could you say Brandywine, Glasgow or St. Marks? Glasgow lost to IR (who lost to SEAFORD!!!), St. Marks lost to Woodbridge (who lost to Milford, twice), and Brandywine went 4-6? I'm sorry if you think they have more next level talent, but at the end of the day, talent means nothing when none of those 3 teams make the state tournament. Does Milford have a solid team I think you'd have to say yes. Next level talent? Bowman, then like I said how about some of the guys on the D line? Those guys are underclassmen and just haven't received any recognition.
I'll agree with you and say Woodbridge has talent comparable to Delmar. The crazy thing, which I'm not sure people know is, had Woodbridge beaten Delmar week 10, Delmar doesn't even make the tourney. I think Caravel might have instead. Everyone's wish would have come true then.
@PickleEveryEndNow There have been a few years in the past where I would have put money on the Division 2 State Championship team beating the Division 1 State Championship team. This rings true for wrestling as well. About 10 to 15 years ago Hogdson Vo Tech was nationally ranked and had a ten year stretch of dominance....They would have won the D1 and D2 wrestling titles back then.