If a kid is good it will show in the end. Stop all the crying about where everyone is seeded. The panel did a pretty good job, can't make everybody happy!!
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All conference results dictate is where they get seeded in regards to their conference opponents.... they just can not be seeded over anyone that placed higher in their own conference.
A few of talked about if a kid just has a bad conference tournament and loses to a kid once but has beaten the same kid 2-3 times during the year, how it really isn't fair to seed higher based on one result BUT it is also a qualifier Tournament.
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The state committee looks at head to head and common opponents that are all entered into track wrestling.[/USER]!
There are no trophies or awards for seeds so why the drama? If seeds are bragging rights for you then you have issues.....
Thanks concord87.All conference results dictate is where they get seeded in regards to their conference opponents. Henlopen 3 or 4 can and was seeded over Blue hen and Independent 1's. They just can not be seeded over anyone that placed higher in their own conference. Record means very little either. The state committee looks at head to head and common opponents that are all entered into track wrestling.
A few of talked about if a kid just has a bad conference tournament and loses to a kid once but has beaten the same kid 2-3 times during the year, how it really isn't fair to seed higher based on one result BUT it is also a qualifier Tournament. The system isn't perfect but better than the old one!
Congrats to your boys @youjustme!
CJ you took my post a little to personal;... were both just voicing opinions not bashing in a presidential debate lol.. I was speaking in general not to you personally
At 152 the was a common opponent in Hisey from Malvern prep who Lamey beat 5-0 at the beast and the next week Hisey beat Bautista at Battle at the Beach 5-4.
At 285 Dooley had a win over Sommervile, who in turn had a win over carter. Pierce had good wins but also a few losses all year so he just wasn't the #1 seed. That weight was actually seeded pretty well in my opinion.
There is no award for #1 seed accept a slightly easier road to finals if you consider any road easy! The elite ones come through whatever way they need to and we get the true top 6 at each weight. This state tournament was probably the best I've seen in many years and I'm sure that has a lot to do with the seeding that's in place now.
The point of seeding isn't to just get the best wrestler, as if you just put them in randomly most times the best guy will always come out on top. The point of seeding is to get the right top 6 players. Randomly all top 6 could end up on the same side of the bracket and half not place at all. I can just say that while I'm no expert, I've been to probably 30 Delaware state tournaments either as a wrestler or coach and I've seen the difference the past two years that they have been seeding it this way.
yap, yap, yap. You really must have some free time on your hands. Why don't you do something important, like project the field of 64? Maybe we should have a DEPreps bracket challenge this year.So it's a thanks for participating thing, in essence. And I don't mean that to take away from a top six performance. That's something every kid should be proud about. But I'd argue that the idea shouldn't just be to get the top six, it should be to get them in the best position to place accordingly -- one through six. This is just nitpicking on my part though. It's Sunday, football is over, baseball is a month away, the 6ers are too awful to watch even if I'm not a fan of theirs and I have some free time on my hands. We'll just agree to disagree.
What we can both definitely agree on is that the new system is better than the old. I suppose my overall point though is that if it could be tweaked and made even better, it should be. Maybe it can't. Maybe this is the best possible system. Lord knows there isn't any perfect way to do things. To paraphrase the old saying though, even though you can never be perfect, you should never stop striving for perfection.
Anyway, thanks, Concord, for indulging me in conversation.