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2A Top Teams Over Last Five Years…

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Seerock9223 said:
For some regulars, it had to hurt pretty bad when AA won in 2021 and WFS in 2022 as these are the two schools that put out a quality product each year and also have seriously high academics. Academics is the one thing missing from this discussion on top teams.
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This is what has surprised me the most out of my research. I understand Archmere and Friends to be highly academic schools where sports are secondary. And maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think these schools have students who attend these schools on athletic scholarships? And kids aren’t transferring in for sports?

The fact that they can sustain athletic excellence in todays climate of “scholarship kids” without playing that game while remaining “academics first” institutions is seriously impressive.
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2A Top Teams Over Last Five Years…

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BackinBlack86 said:
Every school in Delaware is a school choice except for a few in certain districts that are full. It's a tired argument... You being new and all missed the era when school choice and bussing was enacted missed the days when Newark High School dominated in the 90's when all the player from Wilmington and wherever choiced and bussed there. In those day the only private school that was good was Sallies and maybe St Marks..due to numbers but all the other private schools sucked because they were rich kids and the Tech Schools were for other kids who didn't play sports but wanted to be refrigerator repairmen or auto mechanics .. The scholarship chasing was never thing back then it was a back up plan if the sports thing didnt pay out
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I can understand all of this! I guess what I don’t really understand is I’m not making any argument or statement. So when you say it’s a “tired argument”, not really sure what you’re referencing.

What I find so odd in DE is that private/catholic/independent schools are in the same conferences with public schools. Frankly, it seems like an unfair equation…especially in 2024 when it seems pretty clear that private/catholic/independent schools have more resources.

Separate leagues would give public schools that might have been traditionally strong in past years an opportunity to compete against other similar teams with similar resources.

But the way it sits now, it seems to me that at least in 2A, private/catholic/independent schools have an advantage and their records show.
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FNL Scores.. I don't know what week it is

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Previs423 said:
Someone please define the word “recruit” when it comes to Salesianum with either sports, academics, or anything else for that matter. To those that simply don’t like the school or program, it comes across as a “pay to play” accusation. When it really has to do with parents (and students) who want a quality education, competitive sports programs and faith based environment. Compared to other private all boys schools in the vicinity (ie Malven Prep) it’s half the cost. If a parent can afford the tuition, make sacrifices, get financial aid to send their son to that school, why the hate? To me it’s “sour grapes”
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Sour grape or sallies dislike is fine to call out, but also as a Sallies supporter which its seems you are to say there is not recruiting happening is silly. Recruiting defined as: Come take a private tour of our school coach led etc. Sallies is not the only one doing this.
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BackinBlack86
Previs423 said:
Someone please define the word “recruit” when it comes to Salesianum with either sports, academics, or anything else for that matter. To those that simply don’t like the school or program, it comes across as a “pay to play” accusation. When it really has to do with parents (and students) who want a quality education, competitive sports programs and faith based environment. Compared to other private all boys schools in the vicinity (ie Malven Prep) it’s half the cost. If a parent can afford the tuition, make sacrifices, get financial aid to send their son to that school, why the hate? To me it’s “sour grapes”
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To answer your question. Anytime a player transfers there will be people saying they were recruited regardless of knowing nothing or anything about the situation.. Is what is is.. Haters gonna hate.. don't sweat it
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Someone please define the word “recruit” when it comes to Salesianum with either sports, academics, or anything else for that matter. To those that simply don’t like the school or program, it comes across as a “pay to play” accusation. When it really has to do with parents (and students) who want a quality education, competitive sports programs and faith based environment. Compared to other private all boys schools in the vicinity (ie Malven Prep) it’s half the cost. If a parent can afford the tuition, make sacrifices, get financial aid to send their son to that school, why the hate? To me it’s “sour grapes”
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BackinBlack86
fanoffootball123 said:
All schools besides maybe charter have lowered academic standards.

People freaking out about sallies is hilarious. They won a championship last year for the 1st time in awhile. Good chance they win it this year as well.
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Private schools rely on tuition and alumni donations to survive. None of that comes if you suck at sports unless you are Georgetown Prep or some high profile academic and politically connected school. It is smart business to invest in your sports programs as that attracts booster money and students.. Is what is. In a lot of ways private schools operate like a private university. In all honesty if my kid was coming in now I would send him to Sallies or Caravel but Sallies if D1 college offers was a major goal.

Really we are talking about Parochial Schools not necessarily private .. they are the ones who have taken the enrollment hit the last two decades and had to make changes..
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Hoops down State 6 said:
Maybe if every Highschool team in DE can recruit out of State.. Pretty sure they would be on Sallies level. DE is only State that allow Private Schools get away with that.. lol
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That is a false statement.. Many states best programs are private schools.. CA,OH,MD,PA,NY,FL,KY,AZ,NV,UT,LA,SC,NC etc.....and kids come in from other states as well as across the country and over seas

Didn't Middletown just have transfers from PA and MD? yeah they did.. it was allowed.. The last time I checked Middletown was not a private school.
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Laxatt said:
When did DMA become an academic powerhouse?? Also, Sallies right now is just better than everyone else at playing the "recruiting" game. MT/Smyrna/Appo they are all doing it but Sallies is winning and that is where the kids want to play. Have you seen Sallies facilities vs other HS, no brainer where kids want to play.
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This is where the worm turned.. New stadium and a new coach with a forward view of thinking.. Kids of all creeds and colors feel welcome to come there now and want to go there.. Funding is no issue. Its that simple.. We have always said if Sallies became something like the MIAA programs or WCAC or St Joes Prep it would be game over.. DE just doesn't have multiple privates at that level.. just one.. Sallies could have done this 10 years ago.. Sallies can actually pursue a National ranking if this continues. ie.. Their Lax and Soccer programs GDD even said as much in a article.. He wants to be able to schedule some National games... That attracts players..as we have seen before with Smyrna and Middletown and before them Red Lion.. Public schools just don't have the funding to sustain it.
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BackinBlack86 said:
So what are you saying? out of state players are better than in state? They aren't recruiting from California or Ohio like IMG They are restricted to an area where kids can actually get to school in a reasonable amount of time like every school in DE They are located in a 30 mile radius of three states so they pull from them.. Are you telling me a kid from Exton PA or Elkton Md is a better player than one from Newark DE?
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I watched car after car leave Brandywine HS 2015 with PA tags, Concord high the same kids from Chester
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Seerock9223 said:
The real problem is not where the kids come from, it's the standards that have been lowered just to keep Sallies relevant in football and a couple of other sports. Sallies can't do it in football anymore with just legacy kids, they now have to get kids from those academic powerhouses like MT and DMA. It's sad, really, that so many Sallies defenders pretend this isn't happening, and again, it's not just football.
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When did DMA become an academic powerhouse?? Also, Sallies right now is just better than everyone else at playing the "recruiting" game. MT/Smyrna/Appo they are all doing it but Sallies is winning and that is where the kids want to play. Have you seen Sallies facilities vs other HS, no brainer where kids want to play.
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Seerock9223 said:
You're 100% correct and I have the chutzpah to call it out. Tell you what, substitute Howard or DMA for Sallies, and my argument still holds true. Lowering standards, especially academic ones, just to stay relevant in a sport, or sports, is the work of small-minded adults.
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Lowering standards, especially academic ones. Who is lowering academic standards?
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dovetail said:
Man; you have a serious case of SDS, Sallies Derangement Syndrome.
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You're 100% correct and I have the chutzpah to call it out. Tell you what, substitute Howard or DMA for Sallies, and my argument still holds true. Lowering standards, especially academic ones, just to stay relevant in a sport, or sports, is the work of small-minded adults.
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Seerock9223 said:
The real problem is not where the kids come from, it's the standards that have been lowered just to keep Sallies relevant in football and a couple of other sports. Sallies can't do it in football anymore with just legacy kids, they now have to get kids from those academic powerhouses like MT and DMA. It's sad, really, that so many Sallies defenders pretend this isn't happening, and again, it's not just football.
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Man; you have a serious case of SDS, Sallies Derangement Syndrome.
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2A Top Teams Over Last Five Years…

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DelaNewb said:
I’m not really basing much of anything on this. I did this to try to put some numbers to “the talk” around this page (and in conversations). And maybe some of that talk is tainted by locals historic experiences. Not being from here, I have no idea who’s who, so I didn’t want the bias of the past to taint what’s actually happening in recent years.

What would be different if I went back and did the past 10 years? Why is my recent “findings” flawed? I look at as these are just factual findings from the past 5.5 years…it is what it is. No?
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Oh no, it's not a maybe regarding some biases, it's a fact. One regular on the threads has nothing but disdain for private schools and any of their success on the field, except when it's Sallies (and maybe Caravel). For some regulars, it had to hurt pretty bad when AA won in 2021 and WFS in 2022 as these are the two schools that put out a quality product each year and also have seriously high academics. Academics is the one thing missing from this discussion on top teams.
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MTownCavs09 said:
Sallies has been getting kids from PA, NJ, and MD for decades. The argument USED to be why don’t they have more championships. The difference from the years prior is their playbook isn’t outdated and kids are now playing to their strengths. Delledonne are putting the kids in position to succeed and win games. Like a previous poster stated before, the sals faithful are probably jumping in joy for having an offensive coach that knows how’s things work these days.
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The real problem is not where the kids come from, it's the standards that have been lowered just to keep Sallies relevant in football and a couple of other sports. Sallies can't do it in football anymore with just legacy kids, they now have to get kids from those academic powerhouses like MT and DMA. It's sad, really, that so many Sallies defenders pretend this isn't happening, and again, it's not just football.
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MTownCavs09 said:
Sallies has been getting kids from PA, NJ, and MD for decades. The argument USED to be why don’t they have more championships. The difference from the years prior is their playbook isn’t outdated and kids are now playing to their strengths. Delledonne are putting the kids in position to succeed and win games. Like a previous poster stated before, the sals faithful are probably jumping in joy for having an offensive coach that knows how’s things work these days.
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MT….you have made the point perfectly. I sit in the stands 4-5 time a year with some old Sals grads. They are getting used to the offense. Yes, they love winning. Delle Donne is the real deal. I hope he can find a DC to take the place of Coach Worrilow.
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Delaware High School Football Wrap for 10-25-24

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St. Georges 20 Caesar Rodney 6 SG: Ayden Jones and Joel Buck 1 touchdown each along with a fumble recovery recovered by Jase Munson.

William Penn 14 St. Marks 13 WP: Malaki Moore 38 yard pass from Josiah Everett. Zabir Lately Goggins 5 yard run.

Salesianum 38 Middletown 7
Brady McBride 11-24-205 3 TDs
William Neumann 5 catches 130 yards
Noah Micks 2 catches 39 yards 2 TDs

Odell Teel 17 carries 67 yards 1 TD
Aiden Lego 13 carries 64 yards 1 TD
Jasmir Gaymon 7 carries 62 yards

Tower Hill 20 Odessa 6 Michael Waesco son of head football coach Kevin Waesco threw 2 touchdown passes of 41 yards to Shane Pierce and 23 to Aiden Pratt.

Red Lion 35 Delcastle 0
Evan Budinger: 260 yards passing, 4 TD passes (15, 58, 74 & 45).

Taj Boaten: 96 yards receiving, 1 receiving TD (74), 7 total tackles.

Judah Barber: 75 yard interception return for TD, 10 total tackles, 2 tackles for loss.

Delmar 13 Laurel 6 Isaiah Holbrook for Delmar 1 touchdown run of 13 yards. Khalid Schofield 9 yard touchdown pass reception from Ayden McCauley Lionel Hickman Fumble recovery.

Smyrna 46 Cape Henlopen 20 SMY Drew Marks 4 touchdown passes.

Charter School of Wilmington 7 McKean 6 Josh Pullin and Amir Scott both had interceptions for the Force. Andrew Lober found Jacob Ramey in the middle of the end zone for a 6 yard pass. Lober's extra point turned out to be the game winner.

Polytech 28 Seaford 7
Noah Walker 20 carries 158 yards and 3 Touchdowns
Marvens Bernavil 2 carries 39 yards and a Touchdown
Elijah Benton 13 total Tackles
Simon Balcerak 1 INT
Cameron Ervin 1 INT
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Uncle Bumfuzzled said:
previs, unsure of where you are shaking out on this discussion. The tired old excuse is what here?
Sals have always had FB players from Chesco and Delco.
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Sallies has been getting kids from PA, NJ, and MD for decades. The argument USED to be why don’t they have more championships. The difference from the years prior is their playbook isn’t outdated and kids are now playing to their strengths. Delledonne are putting the kids in position to succeed and win games. Like a previous poster stated before, the sals faithful are probably jumping in joy for having an offensive coach that knows how’s things work these days.
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