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Kids do stupid things but also should pay for those things. The mentality in this country kids will be kids and make mistakes so slap them on the wrist and send them on their way? What do they learn from that? I was a kid and when I made bad decisions I got put on restriction sometimes for a month. But I was a kid. These guys are not kids they are adults. If their parents didn’t raise them to make adult decisions then that’s on them. They should face the punishment as any other adult in China would for what they did
He's 18 for the record. 3-10 years in prison is the punishment for shoplifting. You would not be saying that if it was your kid. Not for nothing stupid like shoplifting. Klansman like u always loving seeing these kids fail.Shut up and stop the racist bs no one said to put them in prison. I have no idea what the laws are in China I just said they should receive the same punishment as anyone else who shoplifts
As a fellow white guy I would disagree. U assumed I was black, LOL. I have been in situations pulled over by Cops with my black friends and believe me we were treated differently. I have enjoyed white privilege throughout my life. Always judged as an individual and given the least harshes punishment compared to my black friends. It's avantageous to be white, especially in America. Sitting around listening to my colleagues talk about this situation perhaps put me edge yesterday so the klansman thing was extreme and unjust. People don't know I was raise around mostly black kids. The determination of who pays the price for criminal behavior is not objective. Economics, race, status are factors. Fortunately these kids are in a good situation. Nobody is justifying this behavior, but 3-10 years in jail ridiculous. In my 63 years of life I have found it's very easy for people to suggest these thing when the individuals have brown skin. Caught myself doing it. Had to do a self examination.what high horse do you think I am on? You don't know me or what Ive been through... Not sure where your snap judgement's of me are coming from It seems you are painting me with the same broad brush you are complaining about.. Hey numbnuts I was raised by an addict mother on welfare and lived in section 8 housing a good part of growing up except when my father was able to get custody then I lived in rural Kansas.. Had enough of the BS with my parents in 11th grade went to Md to live with my Granny God Bless her Soul Bottom line is if they stole something then they are subject to the laws of where they are at.. whether we Americans think its lame it istheir laws.. Dont steal then you have no problem Color of ones skin doesnt have anything to do with anything I said... It seems you are convicting me as a racist because I am white? Actually I am Dutch,Irish, English, French Canadian Indian and African
Lol, feeling guilt. Feeling privileged. You and me. The privileged two. We could commit mass murder and it be blamed on mental illness. Our kids can roam freely without police harassment or ever being held accountable for the actions of others. Me and u baby.um OK,,, so your feeling guilty of being white and took it out on me? Please show me anywhere in this thread I said you were black? You assumed I assumed that not me
As a fellow white guy I would disagree. U assumed I was black, LOL. I have been in situations pulled over by Cops with my black friends and believe me we were treated differently. I have enjoyed white privilege throughout my life. Always judged as an individual and given the least harshes punishment compared to my black friends. It's avantageous to be white, especially in America. Sitting around listening to my colleagues talk about this situation perhaps put me edge yesterday so the klansman thing was extreme and unjust. People don't know I was raise around mostly black kids. The determination of who pays the price for criminal behavior is not objective. Economics, race, status are factors. Fortunately these kids are in a good situation. Nobody is justifying this behavior, but 3-10 years in jail ridiculous. In my 63 years of life I have found it's very easy for people to suggest these thing when the individuals have brown skin. Caught myself doing it. Had to do a self examination.
You just wanted to talk about yourself in this thread and painted others as prejudiced so that you could pontificate. Don't do a self-examination because you are a particular color but please do it.
Relax, just pulling your strings. I didn't say you, I or our kids are free of conquences. I just said what's reality, nobody will ever pull me or u over for DWB & accuse us of other people's crimes.wtf dude? maybe you feel privileged but I sure dont nor can my kids roam freely and do what they want without consequences... Not sure what world you live in but its not mine
84 u know if it was some all American white boys like me & Raven, he'd be like bring our babies home so we can punish them. LolLmao at this conversation, as a black man I find both of you hilarious, raven I agree, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time....I am 100% positive UCLA talked in-depth about Chinese culture, laws and customs before leaving the campus. Not saying they should go to jail but it’s probably gonna cost UCLA a hefty under the table payoff....
I think ur right. Perhaps my reaction is more towards the extreme nature I see our country is headed and less towards him. Haven't felt so uneasy since sixties and 70's. Very uncomfortable times we live in.At junkie, I have also read a lot of your post on the basketball board and you seem to a decent guy as well, heck if you meet raven, I think you too would hit it off well
Of course it’s not reasonable but that’s the risk you run by doing dumb stuff in foreign countries. You know there are tons of stories of young people doing stupid stuff and paying severe consequences. This is not bigger news bc of skin color but rather platform and timing.LOL, 0 beef with you. U dont post rediculous crap. back to original issue Jvm, do u think 2 stupid 18 year olds should do 3-10 years in a Chinese jail for shoplifting. Not that they shouldn't face consequences but do u believe that's reasonable?
I think ur right. Perhaps my reaction is more towards the extreme nature I see our country is headed and less towards him. Haven't felt so uneasy since sixties and 70's. Very uncomfortable times we live in.
Communication is key, people listening not talking and understanding that we are all individuals with different opinions not self serving agendas.
Btw, did anyone stay up to watch the UCLA v GT game? Only made first half but was pretty good.
Now that is a response that leads to conversation and understanding but yeah its volatile out there but not as bad as the press makes it seem... I interact with folks of all races every day and there are no issues Everyone regardless of color or race wants the same thing.. Raise their family and put food on the table.. Its pretty much it