HS Week 5 Playoff Points

[HSftballlaxFan]

First off, pardon the format, I can only do this from my phone, my laptop no longer lets me log in and I don’t know the password to log in with this email. So here it goes! Lol. Please let me know if there’s any mistakes….(note: I’ll be leaving the standings to be posted and updated by website4sports/max preps considering they are doing a good job with that.

- Bonus Points will be added at a later date
(1pt for team with 5/6 wins, +1 another for a team with 6/7 wins, +1 more for a team with 9/10 wins)
- 2 Pts for playing a team in a higher class
- 4 pts for a win
- 0 pts for a loss

CLASS 3A
Middletown - 4,4,4,4 = 4.00
Dover - 0,4,4,4,4 = 3.20
St. Georges - 4,0,4,4 = 3.00
Salesianum - 4,4,0,4 = 3.00
Smyrna - 0,4,0,4,4 = 2.40
William Penn - 0,4,4,4,0 = 2.40
Sussex Central - 4,0,4,0 = 2.00
Appoquinimink - 0,4,0,0 = 1.00
Hodgson - 4,0,0,0,0 = .80
Cape Henlopen - 0,0,0,0 = 0.00
Caesar Rodney - 0,0,0,00 = 0.00

CLASS 2A
Woodbridge - 4,6,4,4 - 4.50
Archmere - 4,4,4,4 = 4.00
DMA - 4,4,4,4 = 4.00
Caravel - 4,4,4,4 = 4.00
St. Marks - 4,4,0,4,4 = 3.20
Howard - 4,4,0,4 = 3.00
Friends - 4,4,4,0 = 3.00
Milford - 4,4,0,4 = 3.00
Lake Forest - 4,4,4,0 = 3.00
Tower Hill - 4,0,4 = 2.66
Concord - 0,4,4,0 = 2.00
Sussex Tech - 0,4,0,0,4 = 1.6
Delmar - 0,4,0 - 1.33
Mt. Pleasant - 0,0,4,0 = 1.00
A.I. DuPont - 0,4,0,0 = 1.00
Newark - 4,0,0,0 = 1.00
Mckean - 4,0,0,0 = 1.00
Conrad - 0,4,0,0 = 1.00
Red Lion - 0,0,0,0 = 0.00
Delcastle - 0,0,0,0 = 0.00
Brandy wine - 0,0,0 = 0.00

(REMEMBER: in 2A/1A you reach the playoffs by being in the top 4 of your DISTRICT…then placed accordingly by Playoff Points)

CLASS 1A
Laurel - 6,6,4,4 = 5.00
St. Elizabeth’s - 6,4,4,4 = 4.50
St. Andrews - 4,4,4,4 = 4.00
Charter - 4,4,4,0 = 3.00
Seaford - 4,4,0 = 2.66
Indian River - 0,4,4 = 2.66
Odessa - 2,0,4,4 = 2.50
Tatnall - 2,2,0,4 = 2.00
Polytech - 2,4,0,0 = 1.50
Glasgow - 2,0,4,0 = 1.50
FSMA - 0,0,0,4 = 1.00
Dickinson - 4,0,0,0 = 1.00
Christiana - 2,0,0,0 = .50
Early College - 0,0,0 = 0.00

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

For those of you following….here’s how Playoff Brackets would look….All Hypothetical, incase playoffs started today!

CLASS 3A
First Round Byes - 1. Middletown, 2. Dover, 3. St. George’s, 4. Salesianum, 5. Smyrna

6. William Penn vs. 11. Caesar Rodney ( Winner would play 3. St. George’s)
7. Sussex Central vs. 10. Cape Henlopen (winner would play 2. Dover)
8. Appoquinimink vs. 9. Hodgson (winner would play 1. Middletown)

4. Salesianum would host 5. Smyrna in 2nd rd

CLASS 2A
(According to District standings)
Qualifiers are as follows-
District 1 - DMA, St. Marks, Concord, Newark
District 2 - Archmere, Howard, Friends, Tower Hill
District 3 - Caravel, Woodbridge, Lake Forest, Milford

Playoff Seedings would be as follows: (Woodbridge, Archmere, DMA, Caravel receives 1st rd bye)

5. St. Marks vs. 12. Newark (Winner plays 4. Caravel)
6. Howard vs. 11. Concord (Winner plays 3. DMA)
7. Friends vs. 10. Tower Hill (Winner plays 2. Archmere)
8. Milford vs. 9. Lake Forest (Winner plays 1. Woodbridge)


CLASS 1A
Qualifiers are as Follows:
District 1 - St. Andrews, St. Elizabeth’s, Charter, Tatnall
District 2 - Laurel, Indian River, Seaford, Odessa

Seedings would be as follows:
1. Laurel vs. 8. Tatnall
2. St. Elizabeths vs. 7. Odessa
3. St. Andrews vs. 6. Indian River
4. Charter vs. 5. Seaford

 

[BackinBlack86]

Interesting that no 2A team has played a 3A team yet

Here are the only 3A vs 2A games left

10/8 Milford @ Central
10/8 Delmar @ Cape
10/9 Howard @ HVT
10/23 CR @ Archmere
11/6 HVT @ Newark

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Interesting that no 2A team has played a 3A team yet if these numbers are correct

I messed up. Woodbridge beat Cape Henlopen, fixed.

 

[Longagoplayer]

I'm just curious wouldn't D2 be set up almost like D3, where the top 4 teams have a bye into 2nd round and the first round would be 5vs 12, 6vs 11, 7vs 10, and 8vs 9. Those 4 winners would then move on to play the 4 teams that had byes.

 

[BackinBlack86]

I'm just curious wouldn't D2 be set up almost like D3, where the top 4 teams have a bye into 2nd round and the first round would be 5vs 12, 6vs 11, 7vs 10, and 8vs 9. Those 4 winners would then move on to play the 4 teams that had byes.

You are correct @Longagoplayer 12 plays down to 6 then to 3.. doesn't work

The bracket set ups are here pages 14 15 and 16

https://education.delaware.gov/diaa/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/09/2021-DIAA-Football-and-Unified-Flag-Tournament-Manual.pdf

 

[Longagoplayer]

Does anyone know how hard some of the high schools practice during the school year. Looking at this it is possible that some teams could play 14 straight weeks in a row if they make it to the finals. I know back in the day we practice Monday-Thursday full pads no matter what. I know that some teams break it up and do one day just helmets, one day full pads, and a couple days of just helmet and uppers. Are there still some teams that go all out everyday because now a days that does seem like a greater risk to injury

 

[BackinBlack86]

Does anyone know how hard some of the high schools practice during the school year. Looking at this it is possible that some teams could play 14 straight weeks in a row if they make it to the finals. I know back in the day we practice Monday-Thursday full pads no matter what. I know that some teams break it up and do one day just helmets, one day full pads, and a couple days of just helmet and uppers. Are there still some teams that go all out everyday because now a days that does seem like a greater risk to injury

I think they are only allowed so much contact in practice these days. They certainly don't practice as hard as we did .. fo sho

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

Thanks for the heads up on the brackets. I couldn’t find the right ones last night.

 

[Longagoplayer]

I can't remember what was said but a team that has a 10 game schedule has to play 8 games or 9 games to qualify for playoffs. A team like delmar has already had one game canceled, can they miss another one or would they be out

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

They have to play 70% of their slotted games. So 10 games is what Delaware teams go with, so they have to play 7.

If some teams decided to only play 9 games to start the season they are already behind a game to qualify.

If 3 games gets cancelled by any means, including Covid and not rescheduled they are now down another 10%.

However, their games played will count to the opposing teams if they won 6 games their opponents would receive the necessary bonus point for 5/6 wins.

if a team reaches the tournament, but is not able to play in their tournament game because of Covid they will have to forfeit, and opposing team advances. Team who does not play is also subject to disciplinary actions

that is how I read and understood the rule book. I may be wrong

 

[BackinBlack86]

SOS bonus points aren't determined by wins but win %. 7 games needed for a team to give off bonus points

 

[BackinBlack86]

So if a team only plays 7 games and wins 4 that is a .580 win % and they give 1 pt.. if the 7 game team wins 5 it's a .720 win % and they give 2 BP's

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

It’s definitely a lot harder to calculate the points now. At least more time consuming. I just hope DIAA is already keeping track, it would take all night to figure it out come week 10.

WDEL Sean Greene usually does a great job with it, with this new system I’m not sure if he’s going to continue to keep track or not.

 

[BackinBlack86]

not hard at all... win percentage is on the Web Site for Sports standings page as well as on Maxpreps standings page

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
St. Andrew's	3-0	1.000	117	6	4-0	1.000	144	13	4 W
St. Elizabeth	3-0	1.000	133	12	4-0	1.000	181	18	4 W
Wilmington Charter	2-1	0.667	76	50	3-1	0.750	107	56	1 L
Tatnall	1-1	0.500	48	44	1-3	0.250	48	119	1 W
Glasgow	0-2	0.000	16	75	1-3	0.250	60	110	1 L
Christiana	0-2	0.000	6	83	0-4	0.000	38	149	4 L
Dickinson	0-3	0.000	0	126	1-3	0.250	22	146	3 L

1AD1

St Andrews
St E's
Charter
Tatnall

 

[BackinBlack86]

if the team is over .500 1pt over .700 2pts over .900.3pts


by the way I don't know how you have Dickinson in the 1A play-offs above. Right now it would be Tatnall

 

[BackinBlack86]

actually it looks like you used overall record and not district..

Use Maxpreps its easier as they have them in order by district record

 

[BackinBlack86]

1AD2

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Indian River	2-0	1.000	66	6	2-1	0.667	81	54	2 W
Laurel	2-0	1.000	119	20	4-0	1.000	191	46	4 W
Odessa	2-1	0.667	72	56	2-2	0.500	72	88	2 W
Seaford	1-1	0.500	40	53	2-1	0.667	65	70	1 L
Polytech	1-2	0.333	59	90	1-3	0.250	59	108	2 L
First State Military Academy	0-2	0.000	13	51	1-3	0.250	51	108	1 W
Early College	0-2	0.000	18	111	0-3	0.000	18	155	3 L

IR
Laurel
Odessa
Seaford

 

[Longagoplayer]

Thank you I couldn't remember...I don't know why I thought a team had to play 80% of their games. It will be interesting to see what happens with SOS. I think D2 will have the biggest impact. We could probably agree that so far the top 6 teams would be, in no particular order, DMA, Archmere, Howard, Friends Caravel and Woodbridge. 4 of them would get a bye and 2 of them have a first round game. Someone did say it but I do wonder if you play down a division you should be penalized. Caravel has 3 D1 opponents, Archmere has 2 but one D3 opponent. Some teams have one up and one down so that kind of equals out. I guess my long winded way of saying that it would be unfortunate if a team gets a better seed because they didn't play as good as competition throughout the year as another team.

 

[BackinBlack86]

2AD1

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Delaware Military Academy	3-0	1.000	149	12	4-0	1.000	191	26	4 W
St. Mark's	2-0	1.000	76	18	4-1	0.800	160	68	2 W
Concord	2-1	0.667	79	0	2-2	0.500	86	98	1 L
Newark	1-2	0.333	37	68	2-2	0.500	71	74	1 W
Conrad Science	1-2	0.333	61	90	1-3	0.250	67	138	2 L
Delcastle Technical	0-2	0.000	6	89	0-4	0.000	41	177	4 L
McKean	0-3	0.000	6	130	1-3	0.250	38	130	3 L

DMA
St Marks
Concord
*Newark (fewest ID points allowed)

*Newark or Conrad based on tiebreak

inner district tie break

1. Head-to-head record
2. Fewest points per game allowed in district games (Points allowed divided by number of games played)
3. Opponents highest win percentage (Includes cross-district and cross-class opponents. Ties count as onehalf of a win.)
4. Highest tourna

 

[HSftballlaxFan]

actually it looks like you used overall record and not district..

Use Maxpreps its easier as they have them in order by district record

Yeah I used the website4sports one. It didn’t show that Tanall beat Dickinson so that’s why i showed it the way I did. I can fix it.

when I say harder, I mean harder as in the meaning that I still have to get used to who’s in what class, and district. Wore it was easier. I knew who was where lol

 

[Notursmine]

Comment on practice. I would not say as hard or harder than you back in the day. Different, like most things today. More done with film, technique, focus on game plan. Hitting still part of the game, but limited to scout O, scout D. Personally, never thought hitting all week did anything accept get players hurt, and made us dumber as we got older (I am sure that is not the only reason), but didn't help. As for the playoff situation, I have always felt that you have to eventually play the best team to win. If its the first round or the finals, you have to do it on the field. As for total games played for the high school athlete... I've never heard a good football player say they were glad the season was over. Reality is, and you guys say it on this board every week - there are at least 2-3 games each year that the better teams are playing with a running clock. I appreciate what the powers that be, have tried to do with the realignment. Still needs a bit more. You will see teams as soon as this year fold before the season ends. As for next year there will be a few schools that will not even have a team. Sad! As for the D2 V D3 - all for it. Question you have to ask? Do the 3's want to play the 2's. I am sure the quality 2's are anxious to play the 3's. I would like to see one game a year mandate. Either rival - regardless of division, or quality of record previous year etc... something that bring up the competition level. I know that its only 7v7 when I say this, but D2/D3 happens every week. the are quality games. Again I know its only 7v7, but it does show that there is a way to level out the competition. Don't have all the answers, but the running clock stuff is not good for anyone!

 

[Longagoplayer]

All very good points...practices do seem more cerebal, for lack of a better term, from when I played. I think as long as realignment does adjustments ever couple years it will end up getting the right formula where teams will be in the proper division. I see the running clock as a good thing because it can help teams start resting players and avoid injuries in a blow out. DMA hasn't had a starter play into the 4th quarter yet this year and in their 3 other games they essentially haven't played past halftime. Now their conditioning will be the thing that will be a question mark when they do get into a tight game and where they will be mentally when they get into a close game.

 

[BackinBlack86]

2AD3

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Caravel	2-0	1.000	72	6	4-0	1.000	147	13	4 W
Woodbridge	2-0	1.000	33	14	4-0	1.000	98	57	4 W
Delmar	1-1	0.500	21	20	1-2	0.333	21	48	1 L
Lake Forest	1-1	0.500	28	28	3-1	0.750	101	36	1 L
Milford	1-1	0.500	32	35	3-1	0.750	119	82	1 W
Sussex Tech	1-2	0.333	24	69	2-3	0.400	80	137	1 W
Red Lion Christian Academy	0-3	0.000	27	65	0-4	0.000	47	86	4 L

Caravel
Woodbridge
Delmar
Lake

*tie between Delmar Lake and Milford
DM v Milf canceled
Lake beat Milf

would go to *PA (inner-district points against)

 

[BackinBlack86]

2AD2

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Archmere Academy	2-0	1.000	72	35	4-0	1.000	154	35	4 W
Howard	2-1	0.667	96	20	3-1	0.750	154	70	1 W
Tower Hill	2-1	0.667	79	42	2-1	0.667	79	42	1 W
Wilmington Friends	1-1	0.500	49	31	3-1	0.750	112	31	1 L
Mount Pleasant	1-1	0.500	48	84	1-3	0.250	56	117	1 L
DuPont	0-2	0.000	0	72	1-3	0.250	18	113	2 L
Brandywine	0-2	0.000	27	94	0-3	0.000	45	125	3 L

Archmere
Howard
TH
Friends

* Friends and Mt P tied no HtoH yet goes to *PA

 

[BackinBlack86]

For if and buts a look at 3A


3AD1

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Middletown	2-0	1.000	97	28	4-0	1.000	157	48	4 W
St. Georges Tech	3-0	1.000	77	41	4-1	0.800	136	76	3 W
William Penn	1-1	0.500	56	54	3-2	0.600	135	120	1 L
Salesianum	1-2	0.333	54	48	3-2	0.600	124	81	1 W
Hodgson Vo-Tech	0-2	0.000	12	67	1-4	0.200	44	128	4 L
Appoquinimink	0-2	0.000	26	84	1-3	0.250	35	92	2 L

MIddletown
St Georges
W Penn
Sallies


3AD2

School Name	*W-L	*Pct.	*PF	*PA	W-L	Pct.	PF	PA	Strk
Smyrna	2-0	1.000	82	0	3-2	0.600	158	86	2 W
Dover	2-0	1.000	65	27	4-1	0.800	132	75	4 W
Cape Henlopen	0-1	0.000	21	34	0-4	0.000	100	149	4 L
Sussex Central	0-1	0.000	0	42	2-2	0.500	68	90	1 L
Caesar Rodney	0-2	0.000	6	71	0-5	0.000	27	142	5 L

Smyrna
Dover
Cape
Central

 

[BackinBlack86]

Maxpreps Delaware High School Football Rankings ( Top 25)

#	School	Ovr.	Rating	Str.	+/-
1	Middletown	4-0	37.4	6.8	--
2	Smyrna	3-2	34.5	23.6	+1
3	Archmere Academy (Claymont)	4-0	27.4	-4.7	-1
4	Delaware Military Academy (Wilmington)	4-0	19.8	-17.7	--
5	St. Georges Tech (Middletown)	3-1	18.6	5.5	+3
6	Salesianum (Wilmington)	3-1	18.0	6.7	+1
7	Caravel (Bear)	4-0	17.9	-11.1	+5
8	Woodbridge (Bridgeville)	4-0	15.2	-0.3	+2
9	Dover	4-1	14.1	2.2	+2
10	Howard (Wilmington)	3-1	13.0	-1.5	-4
11	Sussex Central (Georgetown)	2-2	13.0	14.2	-6
12	Wilmington Friends (Wilmington)	3-1	12.5	-1.9	+3
13	William Penn (New Castle)	3-2	10.3	4.8	-4
14	Laurel	4-0	8.2	-26.7	--
15	St. Mark's (Wilmington)	4-1	5.1	-13.9	+1
16	Lake Forest (Felton)	3-1	3.8	-11.9	-3
17	Appoquinimink (West Middletown)	1-3	1.7	12.4	+1
18	Milford	3-1	1.7	-9.9	+1
19	Cape Henlopen (Lewes)	0-4	1.2	14.4	+1
20	St. Elizabeth (Wilmington)	4-0	0.4	-32.4	+2
21	Concord (Wilmington)	2-2	-1.2	-1.8	-4
22	Delmar	1-2	-2.1	5.7	-1
23	Tower Hill (Wilmington)	2-1	-2.2	-12.6	+4
24	St. Andrew's (Middletown)	4-0	-4.0	-38.7	--
25	Sussex Tech (Georgetown)	2-3	-5.2	2.9	+5

 

[BackinBlack86]

Dover is too low IMO.. One reason is their SOS is being skewed for Glasgow being shown on their schedule 8/26 Someone must have put a scrimmage in their MP schedule..

Who ever puts info in for Dover on MaxPreps should remove that and their SOS should go up