DIAA Tournament
- Thread starter HoopCulture13
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Here's my best guess for 1 through 24:
1. Sanford
2. Dover
3. Mt. Pleasant
4. St. Georges
5. Penn
6. Smyrna
7. St. E's
8. St. Mark's
9. Sallies
10. Milford
11. St. Thomas More
12. Woodbridge
13. Delcastle
14. Appo
15. Cape
16. Caravel
17. Laurel
18. Concord
19. Glasgow
20. Tatnall
21. Newark
22. St. Andrew's
23. Middletown
24. Howard
1. Sanford
2. Dover
3. Mt. Pleasant
4. St. Georges
5. Penn
6. Smyrna
7. St. E's
8. St. Mark's
9. Sallies
10. Milford
11. St. Thomas More
12. Woodbridge
13. Delcastle
14. Appo
15. Cape
16. Caravel
17. Laurel
18. Concord
19. Glasgow
20. Tatnall
21. Newark
22. St. Andrew's
23. Middletown
24. Howard
Here's what I have. WinP is points for wins. ISBP is in-state bonus points. OSBP is out-of-state bonus points.
Delaware State Tournament Index
Through Games Of 2-24-16
Rank Team W-L WinP ISBP OSBP Points Games Index
1 Sanford 17-2 34 7 11 52 19 2.737
2 Dover 16-3 32 11 3 46 19 2.421
3 William Penn 17-3 34 12 2 48 20 2.400
4 Mt. Pleasant 17-3 34 10 2 46 20 2.300 COMM1 SOS1
5 Smyrna 17-3 34 11 1 46 20 2.300 COMM1 SOS2
6 St. George’s Tech 17-3 34 7 5 46 20 2.300 COMM3
7 Delcastle 14-6 28 12 5 45 20 2.250
8 St. Elizabeth 14-6 28 15 1 44 20 2.200
9 Milford 14-6 28 14 0 42 20 2.100
10 Salesianum 12-8 24 14 3 41 20 2.050
11 Appoquinimink 12-7 24 12 1 37 19 1.947
12 Concord 10-10 20 12 6 38 20 1.900 HTH1
13 Cape Henlopen 12-8 24 11 3 38 20 1.900 HTH2
14 Middletown 10-10 20 17 0 37 20 1.850 SOS1
15 St. Andrew’s 10-10 20 16 1 37 20 1.850 SOS2
16 St. Thomas More 15-5 30 3 4 37 20 1.850 SOS3
17 Woodbridge 16-4 32 5 0 37 20 1.850 SOS4
18 St. Mark’s 13-7 26 7 2 35 20 1.750 COM1
19 Newark 12-8 24 9 2 35 20 1.750 COM2
20 Caravel 12-8 24 8 2 34 20 1.700 HTH1
21 Red Lion 10-10 20 8 6 34 20 1.700 HTH2
22 Laurel 13-6 26 6 0 32 19 1.684
23 Caesar Rodney 8-12 16 16 1 33 20 1.650 SOS1
24 Howard 10-10 20 12 1 33 20 1.650 SOS2
25 Glasgow 11-9 22 11 0 33 20 1.650 SOS3
26 Dickinson 8-12 16 13 2 31 20 1.550 SOS1
27 A.I. DuPont 9-11 18 13 0 31 20 1.550 SOS2
28 Lake Forest 10-10 20 11 0 31 20 1.550 SOS3
29 Wilmington Friends 10-10 20 11 0 31 20 1.550 SOS4
30 Tatnall 11-9 22 9 0 31 20 1.550 SOS5
31 Delmar 6-12 12 8 7 27 18 1.500
Possible Match-ups:
17 Woodbridge @ 16 St. Thomas More at 1 Sanford
24 Howard @ 9 Milford at 8 St. Elizabeth
20 Caravel @ 13 Cape Henlopen at 4 Mt. Pleasant
21 Red Lion @ 12 Concord at 5 Smyrna
18 St. Mark’s @ 15 St. Andrew’s at 2 Dover
23 Caesar Rodney @ 10 Salesianum at 7 Delcastle
19 Newark @ 14 Middletown at 3 William Penn
22 Laurel @ 11 Appoquinimink at 6 St. George’s Tech
Delaware State Tournament Index
Through Games Of 2-24-16
Rank Team W-L WinP ISBP OSBP Points Games Index
1 Sanford 17-2 34 7 11 52 19 2.737
2 Dover 16-3 32 11 3 46 19 2.421
3 William Penn 17-3 34 12 2 48 20 2.400
4 Mt. Pleasant 17-3 34 10 2 46 20 2.300 COMM1 SOS1
5 Smyrna 17-3 34 11 1 46 20 2.300 COMM1 SOS2
6 St. George’s Tech 17-3 34 7 5 46 20 2.300 COMM3
7 Delcastle 14-6 28 12 5 45 20 2.250
8 St. Elizabeth 14-6 28 15 1 44 20 2.200
9 Milford 14-6 28 14 0 42 20 2.100
10 Salesianum 12-8 24 14 3 41 20 2.050
11 Appoquinimink 12-7 24 12 1 37 19 1.947
12 Concord 10-10 20 12 6 38 20 1.900 HTH1
13 Cape Henlopen 12-8 24 11 3 38 20 1.900 HTH2
14 Middletown 10-10 20 17 0 37 20 1.850 SOS1
15 St. Andrew’s 10-10 20 16 1 37 20 1.850 SOS2
16 St. Thomas More 15-5 30 3 4 37 20 1.850 SOS3
17 Woodbridge 16-4 32 5 0 37 20 1.850 SOS4
18 St. Mark’s 13-7 26 7 2 35 20 1.750 COM1
19 Newark 12-8 24 9 2 35 20 1.750 COM2
20 Caravel 12-8 24 8 2 34 20 1.700 HTH1
21 Red Lion 10-10 20 8 6 34 20 1.700 HTH2
22 Laurel 13-6 26 6 0 32 19 1.684
23 Caesar Rodney 8-12 16 16 1 33 20 1.650 SOS1
24 Howard 10-10 20 12 1 33 20 1.650 SOS2
25 Glasgow 11-9 22 11 0 33 20 1.650 SOS3
26 Dickinson 8-12 16 13 2 31 20 1.550 SOS1
27 A.I. DuPont 9-11 18 13 0 31 20 1.550 SOS2
28 Lake Forest 10-10 20 11 0 31 20 1.550 SOS3
29 Wilmington Friends 10-10 20 11 0 31 20 1.550 SOS4
30 Tatnall 11-9 22 9 0 31 20 1.550 SOS5
31 Delmar 6-12 12 8 7 27 18 1.500
Possible Match-ups:
17 Woodbridge @ 16 St. Thomas More at 1 Sanford
24 Howard @ 9 Milford at 8 St. Elizabeth
20 Caravel @ 13 Cape Henlopen at 4 Mt. Pleasant
21 Red Lion @ 12 Concord at 5 Smyrna
18 St. Mark’s @ 15 St. Andrew’s at 2 Dover
23 Caesar Rodney @ 10 Salesianum at 7 Delcastle
19 Newark @ 14 Middletown at 3 William Penn
22 Laurel @ 11 Appoquinimink at 6 St. George’s Tech
@HoopCulture13 I would say pretty accurate @bluecat4ever had it on the money last year
I wanted to see Glasgow get in I thought they would have a good chance winning a first round game. Them and howard our so close, losing that Newark game pretty much knocked them out of it
I wanted to see Glasgow get in I thought they would have a good chance winning a first round game. Them and howard our so close, losing that Newark game pretty much knocked them out of it
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@bluecat4ever i see a few teams points and game index are identical like Mount, Smyrna, and St George's are a 3 way tie. Also Ceasar Rodney, Howard, and Glasgow are a 3 way tie how do you determine the tie breakers?
So if Glasgow has 11 wins and Cesar Rodney only 8 wins and both teams have the same point index... How can Glasgow be out?
Tiebreakers go like this...
1) head to head if only two teams are tied and they played each other
2) common opponents for two or more teams tied (i.e. if Team A went 4-1 against common opponents while Team B went 3-2, Team A gets tie-breaker)
C) strength of schedule (that's why Glasgow appears to be out. Their strength of schedule is worse than CR's and Howard's)
1) head to head if only two teams are tied and they played each other
2) common opponents for two or more teams tied (i.e. if Team A went 4-1 against common opponents while Team B went 3-2, Team A gets tie-breaker)
C) strength of schedule (that's why Glasgow appears to be out. Their strength of schedule is worse than CR's and Howard's)
Basically, the system rewards playing tough opponents instead of racking up wins against poor teams.
Ok I see. Thank you. It's a shame the team finished 2nd in their conference while winning 11 games. Maybe next year...
I could very well be wrong about them - they might be in. Out-of-state opponents are tricky to get legitimate records for, so I never get it entirely right.
System rewards teams for scheduling tough opponents even if they lose to every one of those tough opponents by 100 points. Rewarding a team for getting their a$$ handed to them, never sat well with me.
Bluecat, can you tell me, are you awarded more points for beating a poor quality opponent, or for losing to a quality opponent?
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The strength of schedule/point system is great for kids & teams long term development because it rewards challenge. You don't get better without getting out your comfort zone. This year it was great to see Sanford beat Chester & almost take down national power house La Lamiere. Appo, St. E, Sal, mt. Pleasant, St. Georges also did well against out of state appoinents. I think If funding is avaiable every team should take a road trip out of state each year & at least play in some regional tournaments. If we went the other way on w/L records delaware would be knocked into the bball dark ages and the state would be overran with delusional kids and coaches.
From the manual:
The following point index system will be used to select the at
large teams and to seed the first two rounds:
1.Two (2) points for each win during the regular season.
2.One (1) bonus point for playing a team whose final regular season record is .501OR ABOVE regardless of which team won.
3.Two (2) bonus points for playing a team whose final regular season record is .701 OR ABOVE regardless of which team won.
4.A team will receive 4 points fora win against an opponent whose final regular season record is .701 OR ABOVE and will receive2 points for a losing to that team.
5.A team’s point index will be determined by dividing the total number of points earned by the number of regular season
games played.
One of the issues with the system is it rewards playing teams with "perceived" strength of schedule. For instance, anyone who played Mckean received a bonus point, but Mckean's 10-8 record didn't even get them into the top 31.
http://www.websites4sports.com/tournaments/2015_2016/BoysBasketballBracket2016.pdf
Bracket, hope that works
Bracket, hope that works