I sat with three different coach’s in the past week. All said the same thing, football is screwed for the Fall.
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Bum; you know the saddest thing out of all of this. There are a lot of really good players like the QB from Hodson and Yelbert, the big DE from Sallies that will not get a senior season. I'm sure there are many others like them and it's just a dam shame.
Those kids will get a chance to play in college. I feel worse for the kids who may have already played their last football game ever but don't know it yet..
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That is going to be crushing, unless a spring season really happens. Either way, this sucks for sports fans/parents/athletes.
Probably will go like in many states that the athletic association won't make the decision. It will come from the Governor's office and the DOE . Sports will be based on if kids are in school or not. If the kids start virtually than no after school activities.. Pretty much every Maryland county is going virtual until the end of January ( 1st semester) Cecil County may do a hybrid but after school activities won't happen in that case. DIAA will come in once a school schedule is made and when they can go full time in class from there they will look at shortened seasons or just cancel fall and maybe winter,
PIAA announced they will go on as scheduled but it will be up to the school systems if their schools have after school activities.. Typically no in class no after
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A friend of mine is tracking this on the National and Maryland forum ...
To the best of anyone's knowledge this is where it stands for football
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 7/23/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (12)- AL, AR, CT, IA, ID, MI, ND, NE, OK, PA, SD, UT
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (1)- WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GA, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (2)- MA, SC
Delayed 4 Weeks (5)- FL, NJ, NY, OR, TN
Delayed until a date TBD (1)- AZ
Delayed until spring (6)- CA, DC, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (21)- AK, CO, DE, HI, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, ME, MN, MO, MT, NH, NC, OH, RI, VT, WI, WY
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 4 Weeks (2)- MIAA, TAPPS
Yet to make a decision (3)- WCAC, SSAC, VISAA
Thursday night update: Florida has reversed course on allowing football to start on time less than 72 hours after making that decision. They will now start practice on August 24th at the earliest and will meet sometime in the preceeding week to evaluate if further delays are necessary. Nevada has moved football to the spring. Oklahoma will start on time. The AL private school league (AISA) will follow the public schools in the state and start on time and play full seasons.
Note: Not all schools/counties will follow the plans laid out by their state association.
To the best of anyone's knowledge this is where it stands for football
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 7/23/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (12)- AL, AR, CT, IA, ID, MI, ND, NE, OK, PA, SD, UT
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (1)- WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GA, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (2)- MA, SC
Delayed 4 Weeks (5)- FL, NJ, NY, OR, TN
Delayed until a date TBD (1)- AZ
Delayed until spring (6)- CA, DC, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (21)- AK, CO, DE, HI, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, ME, MN, MO, MT, NH, NC, OH, RI, VT, WI, WY
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 4 Weeks (2)- MIAA, TAPPS
Yet to make a decision (3)- WCAC, SSAC, VISAA
Thursday night update: Florida has reversed course on allowing football to start on time less than 72 hours after making that decision. They will now start practice on August 24th at the earliest and will meet sometime in the preceeding week to evaluate if further delays are necessary. Nevada has moved football to the spring. Oklahoma will start on time. The AL private school league (AISA) will follow the public schools in the state and start on time and play full seasons.
Note: Not all schools/counties will follow the plans laid out by their state association.
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It's interesting what the VISAA is doing...They are not going to sanction playoffs or championships. They are leaving the decision to play up to the schools. Delaware independent and private schools should take a look at starting their own association... DISAA? They could have their own playoffs and championships while still playing against DIAA teams as an associate member...then they wouldn't be beholden to the DIAA in times like this.
This has been discussed here a few times. There are a few issues.. First is there are not enough private schools that play football. Second is a rule I know you are very familiar with that states, DIAA teams cannot play in state non DIAA member schools with the exception of the Independent Conference ( Silk Panty League) schools who are associate DIAA members but the kids who don't conform to DIAA rules have to sit vs full DIAA teams. Next is what do you do about Sallies? another is it would affect all the other sports and most the schools we would be talking about football is not their main thing.. I don't think the Catholic schools would go for leaving the DIAA and really the only other school than the SPL schools would maybe be Caravel but again the issue would be if the privates went full INDY the competition and lack of enough schools wouldn't work.. unless the DIAA adopted ( like Maryland's MPSSAA) an approved to play list for in state non member schools...
Privates- Football
Catholics
Sallies- non conference
St Marks- non conference
St E's- non conference * joining Diamond State next year
Archmere- Diamond State
Independent Conference (associate DIAA members)
Friends
Tower Hill
Tatnall
St Andrews
Caravel- non conference
Red Lion Christian- Diamond State Conference
Just not enough to warrant their own athletic association nevermind the philosophical or theological differences in the schools for them to form and agree on something together.. Most of these teams refuse to play some of these other teams as it is.. And the competition level between the teams are very different you would have to form two divisions and Sallies would have to go fully independent and play out of state ..
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I agree with BiB. Most of these teams refuse to play one another already. Also agree for most of these schools football is not their meal ticket.
(Based off of recent state championship)
Catholics
Sallies- soccer, lacrosse, cross country, football
St Marks- baseball
St E's - girls basketball
Archmere- Average in most sports.
Independent Conference (associate DIAA members)
Friends - good in men’s lacrosse
Tower Hill - girls lacrosse and field hockey
Tatnall - cross country
St Andrews doesn’t really compete in DIAA championships
Caravel- football
Red Lion Christian- Nothing (years ago football and basketball
private’s need the public’s more than public need private’s.
* not my work, copied from a trusted source on another forum
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 7/27/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (11)- AL, AR, CT, ID, MI, ND, NE, OK, PA, SD, UT
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (1)- IA
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (1)- WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (3)- GA, HI, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (3)- MA, SC, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (6)- FL, NC, NJ, NY, OR, TN
Delayed until a date TBD (3)- KS, KY (8/2), AZ
Delayed until spring (6)- CA, DC, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (16)- AK, CO, DE (8/13), IL, IN, LA, MD, ME, MN, MO, MT, NH, OH (8/4), RI, VT, WY
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Delayed 4 Weeks (1)- MIAA
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (1)- WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Monday night update:
- Practice began today in Alabama, with two counties choosing not to play football this fall.
- TAPPS has pushed their original 4 week delay back to a 3 week delay after the UIL's announcement of a staggered start.
- The WCAC has moved football to the spring.
- Alaska has been rumored to be delaying their season a week but nothing official yet.
- Connecticut, who is scheduled to start on time, has now said the season will likely be pushed back, but with no decision coming until August 3rd.
- Delaware, one of the states with the latest start to practice, will not make a decision on fall athletics until August 13th.
- Hawaii has announced at least two-week delay until August 19th.
- Indiana expects to be able to play on time but hasn't made a final decision yet.
- Kansas has delayed the start of practice indefinitely after the Governor decided to keep schools closed through labor day.
- Kentucky will keep sports in the fall but will not make a decision on how long it will be delayed until August 2nd.
- Ohio will make a decision about the season on or around 8/4.
- Pennsylvania will have meetings tomorrow and Wednesday to reconsider their decision to start the season on time.
- Virginia will play in the spring with a 9-week season in March and April.
- Wisconsin will delay the start of football season by 3 weeks
- Wyoming has not made a decision but has 7 different plans involving fall sports
Note: Not all schools/counties will follow the plans laid out by their state association.
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 7/27/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (11)- AL, AR, CT, ID, MI, ND, NE, OK, PA, SD, UT
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (1)- IA
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (1)- WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (3)- GA, HI, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (3)- MA, SC, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (6)- FL, NC, NJ, NY, OR, TN
Delayed until a date TBD (3)- KS, KY (8/2), AZ
Delayed until spring (6)- CA, DC, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (16)- AK, CO, DE (8/13), IL, IN, LA, MD, ME, MN, MO, MT, NH, OH (8/4), RI, VT, WY
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Delayed 4 Weeks (1)- MIAA
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (1)- WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Monday night update:
- Practice began today in Alabama, with two counties choosing not to play football this fall.
- TAPPS has pushed their original 4 week delay back to a 3 week delay after the UIL's announcement of a staggered start.
- The WCAC has moved football to the spring.
- Alaska has been rumored to be delaying their season a week but nothing official yet.
- Connecticut, who is scheduled to start on time, has now said the season will likely be pushed back, but with no decision coming until August 3rd.
- Delaware, one of the states with the latest start to practice, will not make a decision on fall athletics until August 13th.
- Hawaii has announced at least two-week delay until August 19th.
- Indiana expects to be able to play on time but hasn't made a final decision yet.
- Kansas has delayed the start of practice indefinitely after the Governor decided to keep schools closed through labor day.
- Kentucky will keep sports in the fall but will not make a decision on how long it will be delayed until August 2nd.
- Ohio will make a decision about the season on or around 8/4.
- Pennsylvania will have meetings tomorrow and Wednesday to reconsider their decision to start the season on time.
- Virginia will play in the spring with a 9-week season in March and April.
- Wisconsin will delay the start of football season by 3 weeks
- Wyoming has not made a decision but has 7 different plans involving fall sports
Note: Not all schools/counties will follow the plans laid out by their state association.
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MPSSAA (MD public schools) postpones all fall AND winter sports scheduled in the first semester (which runs through the end of January) with no plans for a delayed or rescheduled season announced. This means MD public schools can't start practice in any sport until Feb. 1
Wow... that is a big decision... I believe that Sussex Central was scheduled to open up with 2 Maryland foes...
https://www.abc27.com/sports/local-...es-react-to-ban-on-fans-for-piaa-fall-sports/
So PA Gov. Wolfe says if they play FB not even parents can attend. Here’s an idea...Episcopal and Malvern should play their home games at Brandywine or the Ab...that would be interesting...
So PA Gov. Wolfe says if they play FB not even parents can attend. Here’s an idea...Episcopal and Malvern should play their home games at Brandywine or the Ab...that would be interesting...
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 8/4/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (14)- AK, AL, AR, ID, IN, KS, ND, NE, OH, OK, SD, TN, UT, WY
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (1)- IA
Staggered Start Date (2)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks), PA (regionally dependent)
Delayed 1 Week (2)- MI, WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (4)- GA, HI, KY, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (4)- CT, MA, SC, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (6)- FL, NC, NH, NJ, NY, OR
Delayed until a date TBD (1)- AZ
Delayed until spring (10)- CA, CO, DC, IL, MD, MN, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (7)- DE (8/13), LA, ME, MO, MT, RI, VT
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Delayed 4 Weeks (1)- MIAA
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (1)- WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Tuesday night update:
- Minnesota will move football and girls volleyball to the spring, all other fall sports will remain in the fall
- Colorado has moved football to the spring as well but will play some sports this fall
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (14)- AK, AL, AR, ID, IN, KS, ND, NE, OH, OK, SD, TN, UT, WY
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (1)- IA
Staggered Start Date (2)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks), PA (regionally dependent)
Delayed 1 Week (2)- MI, WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (4)- GA, HI, KY, MS
Delayed 3 Weeks (4)- CT, MA, SC, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (6)- FL, NC, NH, NJ, NY, OR
Delayed until a date TBD (1)- AZ
Delayed until spring (10)- CA, CO, DC, IL, MD, MN, NM, NV, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (7)- DE (8/13), LA, ME, MO, MT, RI, VT
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Delayed 4 Weeks (1)- MIAA
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (1)- WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Tuesday night update:
- Minnesota will move football and girls volleyball to the spring, all other fall sports will remain in the fall
- Colorado has moved football to the spring as well but will play some sports this fall
Sallies is going to have to find a full 6 games.. None of their 7 Flight A or Hen North games will be available..Not sure about the 2 PA games they may be done by then..
So basically they have St Marks and 5 to fill.. Some D2 teams gonna have to step up and bite the bullet. . lol Pretty sure CA would have no problem playing them to help the cause.. Woodbridge I believe would be game as well. Maybe Delmar..Howard might step up as well but you never know bout them year to year..
Might suck for Sals playing D2 squads point wise with only 4 getting in though... They should have played one more week and let 8 in both sides.. JMHO
So basically they have St Marks and 5 to fill.. Some D2 teams gonna have to step up and bite the bullet. . lol Pretty sure CA would have no problem playing them to help the cause.. Woodbridge I believe would be game as well. Maybe Delmar..Howard might step up as well but you never know bout them year to year..
Might suck for Sals playing D2 squads point wise with only 4 getting in though... They should have played one more week and let 8 in both sides.. JMHO
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Would also toss Delcastle and Poly from conference play this year and let them be schedule fillers for the D2 teams JMHO
The cut off date is before the school year and won’t impact. It is for all sports and not just for FB
PA governor now recommending no school sports until Jan 2021..
https://www.pennlive.com/sports/2020/08/pa-recommends-no-school-sports-until-2021-gov-wolf.html
https://www.pennlive.com/sports/2020/08/pa-recommends-no-school-sports-until-2021-gov-wolf.html
When we get kids in school there might be a quick uptick in the spread. That might mean schools go total online and that there are no sports this year. That is the worst case scenario, of course.
Need a vaccine by Thanksgiving.
PIAA declares 2 week delay for Fall Sports...8/24 would be their new decision date....but my sense is that they won’t attempt to counter Gov. Wolfe.....
National Fall 2020 HS Football Outlook- 8/10/20
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (13)- AK, AL, AR, ID, IN, KS, ND, NE, OK, SD, TN, UT, WY
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (2)- IA, OH
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (2)- MI, WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (4)- GA, KY, MS, PA
Delayed 3 Weeks (3)- CT, MA, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (5)- FL, NC, NH, NJ, NY
Delayed 6 Weeks (3)- AZ, LA, SC
Delayed until spring (13)- CA, CO, DC, DE, HI, IL, MD, MN, NM, NV, OR, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (5)- ME, MO, MT, RI, VT
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (2)- MIAA, WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Monday night update:
- Quiet day with only a couple updates: Maryland's MIAA, the Baltimore-area private school league, has called it off for the fall along with the Philly Public League cancelling sports thru Jan. 1
- Ohio's plan for a six-game regular season with all teams making the playoffs has been approved
State Associations:
Full go on normal start date (13)- AK, AL, AR, ID, IN, KS, ND, NE, OK, SD, TN, UT, WY
Full go on normal start date but shortened regular season (2)- IA, OH
Staggered Start Date (1)- TX (1A-4A on time; 5A-6A delayed 4 weeks)
Delayed 1 Week (2)- MI, WV
Delayed 2 Weeks (4)- GA, KY, MS, PA
Delayed 3 Weeks (3)- CT, MA, WI
Delayed 4 Weeks (5)- FL, NC, NH, NJ, NY
Delayed 6 Weeks (3)- AZ, LA, SC
Delayed until spring (13)- CA, CO, DC, DE, HI, IL, MD, MN, NM, NV, OR, VA, WA
Yet to make a decision (5)- ME, MO, MT, RI, VT
Major Non-State Private School Associations:
Full go on normal start date (2)- AISA, MAIS
Delayed 1 Week (1)- SCISA
Delayed 2 Weeks (2)- GISA, NCISAA
Delayed 3 Weeks (1)- TAPPS
Fall Championships Cancelled, Competition Decision Deferred to Individual Schools (1)- VISAA
Delayed until Spring (2)- MIAA, WCAC
Yet to make a decision (1)- SSAC
Monday night update:
- Quiet day with only a couple updates: Maryland's MIAA, the Baltimore-area private school league, has called it off for the fall along with the Philly Public League cancelling sports thru Jan. 1
- Ohio's plan for a six-game regular season with all teams making the playoffs has been approved
Another interesting thing that is happening is an unprecedented amount of transfers of kids to states that are playing football this fall.. It's crazy, parents will just up and move for their kids to play football like it's nothing.
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