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Rank Team points GP W L Point Index
1 Conrad 37 11 11 0 3.364
2 Appo 42 13 12 1 3.231
3 Newark Charter 35 12 9 3 2.917
4 Middletown 36 13 11 2 2.769
5 Dover 31 12 10 2 2.583
6 Salesanium 36 14 10 4 2.571
7 St. Marks 33 13 9 4 2.538
8 DMA 30 12 7 5 2.500
9 Tower Hill 30 12 10 2 2.500
10 Sussex Tech 29 12 8 4 2.417
11 Glasgow 29 12 9 3 2.417
12 Caravel 24 10 7 3 2.400
13 St. Georges 26 11 7 4 2.364
14 Delmar 28 12 9 3 2.333
15 Polytech 25 11 8 3 2.273
16 RLCA 25 11 8 3 2.273
17 St. E 27 12 7 5 2.250
18 Smyrna 29 13 8 5 2.231
19 Archmere 26 12 7 5 2.167
20 Cape 26 12 7 5 2.167
21 Brandywine 23 11 7 4 2.091
22 Milford 26 13 8 5 2.000
23 Hodgson 20 10 5 5 2.000
24 Charter 17 12 4 8 1.417
25 Wilm Christian 18 10 4 6 1.800
Probably not 100 percent accurate I did anticipate that Conrad, Appo, Middletown, and Sal's would give two bonus points for finishing .667 or above. I also added bonus points for teams who played other teams with 9 win which would put the at the .500 mark. Bonus point are only added if the teams played. For example Wilmington Christian played Conrad twice all ready so they received 4 extra bonus points. They also played Newark Charter who I have sitting at 9-3 so Wilmington christian would have an extra bonus point for that game. Please correct me if i am wrong. This is my first year trying this.
1 Conrad 37 11 11 0 3.364
2 Appo 42 13 12 1 3.231
3 Newark Charter 35 12 9 3 2.917
4 Middletown 36 13 11 2 2.769
5 Dover 31 12 10 2 2.583
6 Salesanium 36 14 10 4 2.571
7 St. Marks 33 13 9 4 2.538
8 DMA 30 12 7 5 2.500
9 Tower Hill 30 12 10 2 2.500
10 Sussex Tech 29 12 8 4 2.417
11 Glasgow 29 12 9 3 2.417
12 Caravel 24 10 7 3 2.400
13 St. Georges 26 11 7 4 2.364
14 Delmar 28 12 9 3 2.333
15 Polytech 25 11 8 3 2.273
16 RLCA 25 11 8 3 2.273
17 St. E 27 12 7 5 2.250
18 Smyrna 29 13 8 5 2.231
19 Archmere 26 12 7 5 2.167
20 Cape 26 12 7 5 2.167
21 Brandywine 23 11 7 4 2.091
22 Milford 26 13 8 5 2.000
23 Hodgson 20 10 5 5 2.000
24 Charter 17 12 4 8 1.417
25 Wilm Christian 18 10 4 6 1.800
Probably not 100 percent accurate I did anticipate that Conrad, Appo, Middletown, and Sal's would give two bonus points for finishing .667 or above. I also added bonus points for teams who played other teams with 9 win which would put the at the .500 mark. Bonus point are only added if the teams played. For example Wilmington Christian played Conrad twice all ready so they received 4 extra bonus points. They also played Newark Charter who I have sitting at 9-3 so Wilmington christian would have an extra bonus point for that game. Please correct me if i am wrong. This is my first year trying this.
Can anyone answer how we determine out of state bonus points. Some schedules seem to have 43 games on it. Some schedules wont end until after our season. If anyone has an answer let me know please.
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I believe the out of state bonus points are based on based on a snapshot of the out of state teams record on the date Delaware determines its final day of play. So if 5/19 is the Delaware High School cutoff, then its the record of the out of state team at that point.
Also i don't think it counts out of state tourney games. Its just regular season games. Not 100% sure of that though.
I believe the out of state bonus points are based on based on a snapshot of the out of state teams record on the date Delaware determines its final day of play. So if 5/19 is the Delaware High School cutoff, then its the record of the out of state team at that point.
Also i don't think it counts out of state tourney games. Its just regular season games. Not 100% sure of that though.
I don't think those questions are explicitly answered in the tournament manual, but here's a link to this year's version just for reference.
http://www.doe.k12.de.us/cms/lib09/...s/Spring Tournament Manual 2017 Final 5_2.pdf
http://www.doe.k12.de.us/cms/lib09/...s/Spring Tournament Manual 2017 Final 5_2.pdf
Rank Team points GP W L Point Index
1 Conrad 49 14 14 0 3.500
2 Appo 50 16 14 2 3.125
3 Middletown 48 16 14 2 3.000
4 Caravel 39 13 10 3 3.000
5 St. Marks 42 14 10 4 3.000
6 Tower Hill 40 14 12 2 2.857
7 Newark Charter 44 16 11 5 2.750
8 Salesanium 43 16 11 5 2.688
9 Sussex Tech 40 15 10 5 2.667
10 RLCA 40 15 12 3 2.667
11 St. E 36 14 9 5 2.571
12 DMA 41 16 9 7 2.563
13 Brandywine 33 13 9 4 2.538
14 Hodgson 35 14 9 5 2.500
15 Glasgow 35 14 10 4 2.500
16 Cape 35 14 8 6 2.500
17 St. Georges 35 14 8 6 2.500
18 Dover 37 15 11 4 2.467
19 Delmar 36 15 12 3 2.400
20 Polytech 30 13 9 4 2.308
21 Archmere 32 14 7 7 2.286
22 Smyrna 35 16 8 8 2.188
23 Milford 30 14 9 5 2.143
24 Sussex Central 32 15 8 7 2.133
25 Mt. Pleasant 34 16 7 9 2.125
If anyone else is calculating could they add. I am trying to see how close I am. I could be totally off.
1 Conrad 49 14 14 0 3.500
2 Appo 50 16 14 2 3.125
3 Middletown 48 16 14 2 3.000
4 Caravel 39 13 10 3 3.000
5 St. Marks 42 14 10 4 3.000
6 Tower Hill 40 14 12 2 2.857
7 Newark Charter 44 16 11 5 2.750
8 Salesanium 43 16 11 5 2.688
9 Sussex Tech 40 15 10 5 2.667
10 RLCA 40 15 12 3 2.667
11 St. E 36 14 9 5 2.571
12 DMA 41 16 9 7 2.563
13 Brandywine 33 13 9 4 2.538
14 Hodgson 35 14 9 5 2.500
15 Glasgow 35 14 10 4 2.500
16 Cape 35 14 8 6 2.500
17 St. Georges 35 14 8 6 2.500
18 Dover 37 15 11 4 2.467
19 Delmar 36 15 12 3 2.400
20 Polytech 30 13 9 4 2.308
21 Archmere 32 14 7 7 2.286
22 Smyrna 35 16 8 8 2.188
23 Milford 30 14 9 5 2.143
24 Sussex Central 32 15 8 7 2.133
25 Mt. Pleasant 34 16 7 9 2.125
If anyone else is calculating could they add. I am trying to see how close I am. I could be totally off.
I have Wilmington Christian with a point index of 2.23... their index could move around a lot as they have several teams on the schedule currently with 7-7 records.
Also, it's hard to tell but Delmarva Christian's index could be as high as 2.27... MaxPreps does not have a lot of details- but that would be unreal if they snuck in somehow.
Also, it's hard to tell but Delmarva Christian's index could be as high as 2.27... MaxPreps does not have a lot of details- but that would be unreal if they snuck in somehow.
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@steviking1414, one the best point calculators on depreps, if i remember correctly, he had to create a knew account due to losing his pssword info but has been very good at the points systems,just sharing
I only added bonus points for current schedule if that havent played a team i didnt give them the bonus yet. Would you still have Wilm Christian at 2.23. Wilm Christian is 6-7 according to Website4sports.
Did you add points for loses cause you still get bonus points for a loss if team is .500 1 point and .667 2 points
I could add what I have for Wilm Christian
Wilm Christian P GP W L %
Mckean 3 1 1
Brandywine 4 1 1
Conrad 2 1 1
Dlemarva Christian 3 1 1
DAPSS
Sanford 3 1 1
DMA 1 1 1
Archmere 0 1 1
Tower Hill 2 1 1
Newark Charter 1 1 1
Tatnall 0 1 1
Conrad 2 1 1
DMA
Archemere 3 1 1
Howard 3 1 1
Newark Charter
Wilm Friends
Concord
27 13 6 7 0.4615 Point Index equals 2.077
WCS- I had 18 points for wins (6x3), 2 points for Brandywine (9-4 record), 4 points for Conrad, 2 points for Archmere (7-7, 2 games at 1 point each), 2 points for Tower Hill (12-2 record), 2 points for Newark Charter (11-5 record), and 1 point for Delmarva Christian (7-4 record). 18 points for wins, 13 bonus points = 31 points / 13 games so actually I did it wrong and come out with 2.38.
If I project out, they would go 1-3 from here (beating Concord), so 3 more for a win, plus bonus points - 1 from DMA, 2 from Newark Charter, 1 from Friends... that would be 37/17 for an index of 2.18... so really they need to go at least 2-2 to have a shot as going 2-2 puts them at 2.35- close to where they are now. Even then I don't think 8-9 and 2.35 will do it.
If I project out, they would go 1-3 from here (beating Concord), so 3 more for a win, plus bonus points - 1 from DMA, 2 from Newark Charter, 1 from Friends... that would be 37/17 for an index of 2.18... so really they need to go at least 2-2 to have a shot as going 2-2 puts them at 2.35- close to where they are now. Even then I don't think 8-9 and 2.35 will do it.
ok I see what you did... I only gave bonus to teams who are guaranteed to go 500 so Archmere right now doesn't receive any bonus but as soon as they hit 9 wins I will give the bonus
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After the tournament field has been selected, the participating teams will be seeded according to their point indices as determined by Item 1.D (above). B. The first-round games are as follows; Seed #20 at #13, #19 at #14, #18 at #15, and #17 at #16. The Second Round games are as follows; Seed #1 hosting the #16-#17 game winner, Seed #2 hosting the #15-#18 game winner, Seed #3 hosting the #14- #19 game winner, Seed #4 hosting the #13-#20 game winner, #12 at #5, #11 at #6, #10 at #7 and #9 at #8
Look at Tower Hill hanging in that 6 spot. Point to Point chest thumping might just be on to something.
Tower Hill is handling their business nicely, winning a lot of games against weaker competition but it is what it is, the kids don't make the schedule.
They may end up in the top half of the playoffs and may even win 1 game in playoffs but probably wont go any further . Weak schedules hurt teams going into play they haven't seen the pitching the other teams have seen !
You don't. The .500 record only applies to automatic conference births. If you are in the top 20 based on index, your in.
Not sure that is correct. I believe you have to have a .500 record to qualify, regardless of index or conference championship
Conference/Flight/Division Champions’ automatic berths will be determined by the following qualifying criteria: 1. A Conference/Flight/Division must consist of five participating schools to receive an automatic berth. If a Conference/Flight/Division has fewer than five participating teams, the teams are still eligible for an at-large berth. 2. The champion must possess a .500 winning percentage record or better. 3. The champion must be in the top 50% of all eligible teams in the state tournament field. D. At-large selection process 1. The fourteen (14) remaining teams with the highest point indices as determined by the following procedure will qualify for the tournament. a. Award three points for each win. b. Award one bonus point for each game played against an opponent whose winning percentage during their regular season is .500 or higher, regardless of which team won. c. Award one additional bonus point for each game played against an opponent whose winning percentage during their regular season is .667 or higher, regardless of which team won. d. Divide the total points accumulated by the number of games scheduled. e. Tie-breaking criteria. 1) Head-to-head competition. If three or more teams are tied, they must all have played each other. 2) Records against common opponents. 3) Number of opponents with .667 or better records. 4) Number of opponents with .500 or better records. 5) The Baseball Committee will decide. 6) Once a tie is broken between three teams, if a tie still exists between two teams, the tie-breaking criteria will revert back to Item 1.D.1.e. f. If an at-large team is unable to participate in the tournament for any reason and announces its intentions before the committee selects the field, that team will be replaced by the next best team as determined by the at-large selection process.
The fourteen (14) remaining teams with the highest point indices as determined by the following procedure will qualify for the tournament.
The remaining qualify solely on indices, period. An 8-10 team would be eligible for an at-large bid. It happens all the time with the Catholic schools in volleyball b/c of their strength of schedule. If you pick enough double bonus losses you might be able to earn your way in....
The remaining qualify solely on indices, period. An 8-10 team would be eligible for an at-large bid. It happens all the time with the Catholic schools in volleyball b/c of their strength of schedule. If you pick enough double bonus losses you might be able to earn your way in....
Soccer...I agree, but look at section B.2 which determines an eligible ( A team must have a winning percentage of .500 or higher at the varsity level ).
You are right. I was going off 84's info and what I thought. I will say I don't agree. Some teams by default of conference affiliation have tougher schedules, and some schedule tougher teams. I am curious how many other sports have a mandatory .500 record. Basketball doesn't I'm sure.
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No problem.....Besides softball, I'm not sure there are any other sports. But don't know much about rules for tourneys.
Spring tournaments manual.
http://www.doe.k12.de.us/cms/lib09/...anuals/Spring Tournament Manual 2017 POST.pdf
http://www.doe.k12.de.us/cms/lib09/...anuals/Spring Tournament Manual 2017 POST.pdf
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